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Sam smith



Member Since: 12 Aug 2021
Location: Suffolk
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Epsom Green
Headlights not working on dipped beam
Still trying to fix my headlight issue, they aren’t working on dipped beam. Sidelights work and main beam both work ok just no dipped lights, any suggestions?
Many thanks!
I’m assuming it is a fault with the relay, I have tried swapping round the bottom right one which it is marked on the diagrams as but still no luck.
Which one is headlight relay location? Presumably it is the top right?
Post #1030769 6th Apr 2024 7:55pm
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BrickBox



Member Since: 05 Oct 2021
Location: Wales
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Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
Lucas light switch should sort the problem. 10 minute job to swap. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
Post #1030772 6th Apr 2024 8:10pm
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RFT



Member Since: 13 Nov 2010
Location: Cheshire
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Zermatt Silver
There is no headlamp relay, full current passes through the switch hence why it is short lived 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper
Post #1030777 6th Apr 2024 8:54pm
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Sam smith



Member Since: 12 Aug 2021
Location: Suffolk
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Epsom Green
BrickBox wrote:
Lucas light switch should sort the problem. 10 minute job to swap.

Is there a way I can verify this prior to ordering a new switch just to be sure?
Cheers
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custom90



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Visually and electrically check it with a DMM.

The contacts can burn out (due to load through it), you can get a high resistance reading both sides of the contacts if engaged.
Excessively low voltage at a headlight socket are a few examples.
(You might be able to check that, from the engine bay side, without removing a headlight from the rear by taking one socket off.
If you’ve got a voltage there between ground and the dipped pin, of under 12v Approx then you can probably safely say it’s the switch. A voltage reading may show such as 0.5 v or 6v if the switch has had it or none at all, if the latter then maybe a loose connection, but switch contacts gone as mentioned is most likely culprit.

If you don’t own a Multimeter / DMM, then you could borrow one possibly, using one can be very helpful for one of these kind of things if anyone is so inclined to do so there are lots of videos and details online.
This is something that’s can be useful to most owners, if you already know how to use one then that’s not a problem at all.
Visually checking it works to a point, but may not be particularly decisive.

You don’t have a ground issue there by the sounds of it, which is good.
It is likely as mentioned that it needs a new headlight switch. Thumbs Up

If you do decide to take a headlight out, be careful of dropping one it can easily be done.
Especially if wet. No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #1030789 6th Apr 2024 11:15pm
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nosuchthing



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
My 2003 TD5 has just developed the same problem. Did you find the solution? And @custom90 - are you referring to the on/off switch for the lights or the stalk which operates the dip/high beam and horn?
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Sam smith wrote:
BrickBox wrote:
Lucas light switch should sort the problem. 10 minute job to swap.

Is there a way I can verify this prior to ordering a new switch just to be sure?
Cheers


Yes, just unplug the switch from the harness and jumper the pins in the harness connector.
Post #1054095 7th Dec 2024 5:38pm
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jaygti



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United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
It happened to me a couple of months ago.
I ended up replacing both headlamp switches to no avail.
In the end it was the dim dip relay behind the dash.
I didn’t replace it, i just took it outI and put a jumper wire in it instead. 2002 td5 90 county hardtop
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nosuchthing



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
Thanks for the tip. I've been reading a lot around the subject online and yes it seems the dim dip relay is the #1 cause of the problem. Will check it out tomorrow.
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nosuchthing



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
Yes - the dim/dip relay was the problem. A replacement cost £25 and took 5 minutes to fit - a very easy fix.
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jbcollier



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Canada 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Glad you sorted your issue.

The best way to isolate an electrical problem is with a 12v test light and a wiring diagram. Polling the internet for the likeliest cause and changing that without testing can get expensive.
Post #1054885 16th Dec 2024 8:03pm
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