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| Flinders Member Since: 17 Feb 2024 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 43  
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I’m the one on the Facebook group that has the rolling backwards defender. You shared info on consumer info for faulty vehicles. Didn’t think it would get to this but after 2 repair attempts and more damage to the car I’m rejecting. Still waiting for JLR decision as I’ve requested an AVC (assisted vehicle change).
It also has squealing ventilation fans and the EPB release is very noisy. Quite a few little electric gremlins but not sure if this is just PIVI pro. It did start when I pressed start again and I just put it down to one of the gremlins the vehicle has. First time ever I’ve bought a brand new car so total disappointment for me  5th Land Rover and the previous second hand ones has been better! MY25 Defender 90 D350 X Dynamic HSE - REJECTED 
MY18 Discovery 5 3.0ltr TD6 HSE Lux - Derek |
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28th Nov 2024 9:23pm |
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| Flinders Member Since: 17 Feb 2024 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 43
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Deleted duplicate post……. MY25 Defender 90 D350 X Dynamic HSE - REJECTED
MY18 Discovery 5 3.0ltr TD6 HSE Lux - Derek |
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28th Nov 2024 9:23pm |
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| DrRob Member Since: 29 Mar 2017 Location: Hampshire Posts: 193 
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Ah thought so 👍 MY25 90 D350 X-Dynamic HSE in Silicon Silver and coil sprung
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie" Many Range Rovers and Land Rovers over the years 😂 1949 80" - still in family since 1975 |
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28th Nov 2024 9:24pm |
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| Eric Caterpillar Member Since: 17 Jun 2024 Location: Scotland Posts: 50 
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Didn't want to create a new thread, as I have observed a similar issue on a number of occasions, so I'll post my points here.
My car with under 1000 miles did not start its engine a few times, the dashboard lit up and pivi initiated all the usual welcome screens, but the car didn't start. Had to turn the ignition off and try again and it worked on a second attempt. Didn't pay much attention until I saw the OP reporting something possibly similar. I then noticed that if I push and hold the start button instead of just pressing it the engine always starts. The manual says that this is the procedure after refuelling (?). Subsequently, I purchased a battery tester and a trickle charger, admittedly, I don't how to perform a 100% accurate test, so just went ahead with a default: 500CCA  Click image to enlarge Cranking Test Click image to enlarge Charging Test Click image to enlarge And finally connected car's battery to the noco charger, it states the battery current status was under 50%. Click image to enlarge Is there anything of a concern or should I be doing something differently? Admittedly, not entirely sure how to run the battery diagnostics. Is that the state of affairs with these new Defenders that the battery is not up to the task without maintenance? |
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3rd Dec 2024 10:15am |
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| Alicat Member Since: 25 Nov 2013 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 136
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Afternoon all
I no longer own an L663 Defender, but the starting issue was affecting several owners in 2021. Mine displayed this issue. It would power up and everything was normal, but when you pressed the Start button nothing happened. However, it would always start on the third push of the button. It happened randomly. It would be fine for weeks, then there would be a few days it wouldn't start until the third attempt. |
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3rd Dec 2024 3:22pm |
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| Gareth Member Since: 12 Dec 2011 Location: Woodford Posts: 1107
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Interesting that my Defender received an over the air update yesterday taking it to version 4.2.1 and the notes say it’s mainly to do with rectification of a fail to start scenario following cranking of the engine, and better management of the battery management system (BMS). 2021 Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE D300 MHEV
1966 S2a 109 aka Betsy |
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3rd Dec 2024 5:45pm |
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| DrRob Member Since: 29 Mar 2017 Location: Hampshire Posts: 193
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That is very interesting 👍🙏 MY25 90 D350 X-Dynamic HSE in Silicon Silver and coil sprung
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie" Many Range Rovers and Land Rovers over the years 😂 1949 80" - still in family since 1975 |
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3rd Dec 2024 6:25pm |
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| Eric Caterpillar Member Since: 17 Jun 2024 Location: Scotland Posts: 50
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I noticed the new update was available today, after two weeks from the first reported download. Wonder if it's because I trickle charged the battery and the car can now perform the update?
Indeed, the wording on the software update seems to be addressing the very engine cranking issue. |
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4th Dec 2024 10:52pm |
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| DrRob Member Since: 29 Mar 2017 Location: Hampshire Posts: 193
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Should be getting mine back soon. Been there 4 weeks 
Sat for 2 weeks waiting for workshop slot MY25 90 D350 X-Dynamic HSE in Silicon Silver and coil sprung
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie" Many Range Rovers and Land Rovers over the years 😂 1949 80" - still in family since 1975 |
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5th Dec 2024 9:50pm |
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| Flinders Member Since: 17 Feb 2024 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 43
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Hope yours is resolved Rob. Mine did it again today and thankfully my husband was in the car to witness it so I knew it wasn’t anything I’d done! It also did the software update earlier this week so that’s not resolved the issue.
It is being collected on Wednesday so it will be the dealers problem and probably to poor unfortunate person who buys it as a used vehicle with none of the faults resolved  MY25 Defender 90 D350 X Dynamic HSE - REJECTED
MY18 Discovery 5 3.0ltr TD6 HSE Lux - Derek |
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8th Dec 2024 6:08pm |
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| DrRob Member Since: 29 Mar 2017 Location: Hampshire Posts: 193
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Thanks for update. If it’s not resolved then I will reject it within the 6 month window
MY25 90 D350 X-Dynamic HSE in Silicon Silver and coil sprung
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie" Many Range Rovers and Land Rovers over the years 😂 1949 80" - still in family since 1975 |
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8th Dec 2024 8:11pm |
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| DrRob Member Since: 29 Mar 2017 Location: Hampshire Posts: 193
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Collection day........time will tell
  MY25 90 D350 X-Dynamic HSE in Silicon Silver and coil sprung
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie" Many Range Rovers and Land Rovers over the years 😂 1949 80" - still in family since 1975 |
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11th Dec 2024 12:56pm |
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| DrRob Member Since: 29 Mar 2017 Location: Hampshire Posts: 193
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So far so good. I am pressing the pedal and button firmly and maintaining pressure until it fires so that I have a baseline
I did update to 4.2.1 on collection MY25 90 D350 X-Dynamic HSE in Silicon Silver and coil sprung 1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie" Many Range Rovers and Land Rovers over the years 😂 1949 80" - still in family since 1975 |
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19th Dec 2024 12:45pm |
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| Eric Caterpillar Member Since: 17 Jun 2024 Location: Scotland Posts: 50
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I did charge up the battery with a trickle charger and have been maintaining a similar routine, brake firmly pressed and push and hold the start button for 3 seconds.
Pivi pro update to the latest version, but only after topping up the battery. So far so good. |
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19th Dec 2024 2:06pm |
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