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LJMARSDEN



Member Since: 08 Jun 2021
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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Other HT Java Black
Puma Dash Conversion
I have a trimmed dahsboard I want to instal in my 06 90. I intend on using the standard heater matrix and printing my own ducting. And eventually swapping over to the Puma gear selectors too but that can wait for now.

Can anyone advise me on a method for using the standard puma heater/ fan control. Ideally I would like to have some know how on the controller the puma dashboard comes with and whether its possible to adapt the TD5 loom to accomodate the switches.



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I'll be updating this thread with the ducting and vents info incase anyone in the future wants to see how I've decided to do it. 4.0 V8 Defender 90

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PaulMc



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Puma switches are the same as the TD5 switches and use the same connectors.

The Puma heated seat switches are different to the TD5 heated seat switches, 'landscape' instead of 'portrait'.

Functionally, they are wired the same - but, the Puma switches both use black 5-way connectors, whereas the TD5 switches use a black connector on one side and a green connector on the other side.

Releasing the terminals from the green connector and inserting them into a black connector is easy, see my document for the D2 fuel flap switch, here -

https://landrover-connectors.co.uk/instruction-sheets

. Paul.
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Post #1052774 24th Nov 2024 3:00pm
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LJMARSDEN



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Cheers Paul,

Should've mentioned that I got that part already, I'm exclusivelt questioning the heater control set up in teh centre piece of the dashboard. Thumbs Up 4.0 V8 Defender 90

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macfrank



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Not sure what you are reffering to re switches. Only the upper central slider for the fan control is a switch, the others are bowden cables.
https://www.lrworkshop.com/wiring-diagram/...label=S184


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LJMARSDEN



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Thats right Frank, yes. I Should be able to manage a good solution for those. The heater cable stay has to be swapped over since its reversed. 4.0 V8 Defender 90

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LJMARSDEN



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Also - does anyone have the positions of the threaded holes for the reinforcement bar?

Item arrived today and would love to have these shared with me without having to guess

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LJMARSDEN



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Spent a couple hours on the small(ish) project tonight. I've also began the print for the air ducting manifold thing.

For those who are familiar with the pre puma bulkheads the panel which retains the demisters and other bracketry required some cutting on the LH side. This was to accomodate the back of the dash and its glove box/ shelf. I'll follow up tomorrow with photos of this. I plan on having a constant blower direction for now as I am cutting it close to my trim next month. So that will be the two front facing circular vents, the demisters and and the driver/ passenger demisters the Puma dash has.



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Post #1053372 29th Nov 2024 8:06pm
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LJMARSDEN



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The second version of the airbox works well and provides a great dwarf with the 2 blower setup on my Td5. the bar is now in and I'm currently waiting for the ducting to arrive. From there I can print my T pieces for the multitude of sizes I'm using as well as the dash panel to accommodate just the gauges.

This is a clamp of sorts that I printed to keep the vent flaps shut.

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Stiff1



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I recall there can be issues with the dash interfering with the gearstick travel when doing this conversion.
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LJMARSDEN



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Yes, I cut and welded the stick in two places. Not perfect just yet due to the gaiter but for now it will do. 4.0 V8 Defender 90

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LJMARSDEN



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So, I near enough have this "complete" or at least to a working order which will be more than comfortable for my trip later this month. Very happy with it, a lot more robust than the older style dashboard and certainly a lot quieter.

The ducting is about 80% there. It requires two printed vents for the side demisters to be glued to the inside of the dashboard & a 45mm OD to 70mm ID adapter for the upper front face vents.

I did find that the LH demister is a touch light on the rate of air which is down to the shortest path and or easiest path the air takes is the front facing vent. So, I'll be printing another Y piece with a deliberate restriction in it.

So far like I said this little kit doesn't accommodate for the direction change just the airflow to where is most important. In time I'll hopefully get to develop something using the standard cables and Puma Controls. If I don’t get distracted with anything I want to do to the thing.

Note: The cardboard is temporary, hopefully.... Also the pics were quick and dirty as it was another late night last night.



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Post #1053705 3rd Dec 2024 6:53am
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Zed



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That looks seriously complicated! Great work mate. WARNING.
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LJMARSDEN



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Cheers Zed

More printed bits, this time the side window demisters. I'll be installing these tomorrow along with a service of the car. Happy to get this done and ready beforeI go on a 300mile round trip in the V8 this weekend. Off to Grizedale Rally and stopping overnight in Windermere.



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Mo Murphy



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Looks really nice Luke, good job 👍
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macfrank



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amazing job Thumbs Up
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