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Procta



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nissan to shed 9000 jobs
https://www.sunderlandecho.com/business/ni...in-4856860

I recon this is the start of many things to come across the automotive board, and not just nissan, I am really thinking this is because of the EV and hybrid production cost. They are not making enough return on it at all. Sunderland battery plant, that was due to open, has been put back again for another year. My former TL has just jumped ship to where i work, due to the battery plant been down on orders.
I recon there is going to be a massive U turn with EV and Hybrid, and i think Diesel cars will make a comeback, Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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To clarify that is 9000 jobs worldwide there are only circa 6000 guys at Sunderland total
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Procta



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90 Dreamer been rumours going about, that they are laying off 500 before Xmas, and that was weeks ago before this broke out. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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It's been going round the industry for a few weeks already.
VW closing 3 plants in the German heartland. BMW and Mercedes are reported to be looking very vulnerable at the moment.
Stellantis / Jeep shedding 1100 jobs at the Wrangler and Gladiator assembly plant in Ohio. 2500 Ram truck layoffs already announced and 1000 at GM in the the US.
Knock on effects in the supply industry. Recaro have already gone bust.

Not a good time just now. I can't help but feel that worldwide government EV targets and the potential penalties for making too many ICEs has brought all this on, or made a slight downturn much worse than it would have been.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-tra...024-10-28/

https://www.automotivedive.com/news/stella...ep/732255/

https://www.businessinsider.com/schaeffler...mw-2024-11
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There's also a feeling that cars are getting too technologically complicated which is putting buyers new off and affecting second hand values. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
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nothing to do with the apparent uplift in vehicle prices that the Corporates leveraged during Covid........

would imagine a lot of people simply can't afford the latest tech fest
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My other half is considering a new car, the prices are crazy we have been looking it’s like prices have doubled, then the prices they give are all financed when you ask for the non financed it goes up 4-5k. Also they all do 7k off due to a govemenet plan here where you may get some of that back through a gov plan. Spain is crazy at present for car prices Searching for my first Defender...and started just as Covid hit, so talk about timing.

5 months after starting the search I found it, and here is the details
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Moo wrote:
There's also a feeling that cars are getting too technologically complicated which is putting buyers new off and affecting second hand values.

This is true, and to a certain extent affects reliability as a breakdown, it might not just be a simple repair, back on the road in a week, but months of downtime, due to waiting for the appropriate technician to look at it.

Purely because, many may not have the knowledge of the specific engineering field concerned, due to an over complex design, sometimes over complication is a flaw, not a benefit built in. ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️
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Another supplier plant in the US closing.
Sumitomo / Falken tyres.

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