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Moo



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Food for thought from Harry
Interesting thoughts. Technology and batteries might well be shaping our current buying habits and vehicle longevity when it comes to cars. It's certainly shaping depreciation.

I bought my Defender as a long term keeper but talking to my local independents, the cost of acquiring technology and systems to maintain them in the future is going to prohibitively expensive to make it worth while. This applies to all brands not just LR.

The other thing is the software payments for functions on a car that need renewing. I personally find that frustrating.

Interesting times ahead...

 Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
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Planned obsolescence a very sound business strategy and is getting easier and easier with things becoming more complex and dependent.

Remember that we ourselves with our behaviour (and the marketing we are subjected to) are a big part of the planned obsolescence story. We keep buying the latest models to keep up with the fashion even though there is very little object reason to upgrade. Lots of perfectly functioning goods are being thrown out and replaced, never mind needing repairs.
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This is where the ‘classic’ Defender wins with long term owners. You can keep that car for your lifetime.

2015 (+/- a year or so) is peak automotive years for being able to own/maintain a vehicle long term, diesel or petrol. After that, they become extremely difficult to maintain. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
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3D printers and synthetic fuel anyone?
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BrickBox wrote:
This is where the ‘classic’ Defender wins with long term owners. You can keep that car for your lifetime.

2015 (+/- a year or so) is peak automotive years for being able to own/maintain a vehicle long term, diesel or petrol. After that, they become extremely difficult to maintain.


They said that about carburetors (I suppose about cars in general when people still used horses) then simple injection system which are independent Bosch LH and the like, pre emissions control systems (diesel), etc.

Not sure when the most DIY friendly car existed..
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