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withabix

Member Since: 24 Sep 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 8

1997 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Alpine White

Elring Head Gasket - No Hole version

I ordered what was supposed to be a 0-hole head gasket from Rock Auto, that was supposed to be equivalent to LVB500230, and they sent me an Elring 565.860, which is a 2-hole MLS gasket. It comes up on their website as equivalent to LVB500230.

Should they have sent me an Elring 432.830, which comes up as equivalent to an ERR7154? (432.830 is a fibre gasket).

Elring 565.860 comes up as a 0-hole (or 4-hole...same thing) LVB500230, but has 2 holes in the tab.

My 1997 ROW 300Tdi has a 0-hole gasket in right now, and has done for at least 11 years.

I am confused.

Anyone know?

14th Oct 2024 9:48pm

NickMc

Member Since: 01 Oct 2014
Location: Norn Iron
Posts: 1628

You’d be fine with the one you’ve bought on an old Tdi, I’d be worried if it was the other way round. It’s not going to make that much difference in the grand scheme of it. The MLS gasket is a much better gasket.

14th Oct 2024 10:16pm

Will@LRW

Member Since: 04 May 2019
Location: UK
Posts: 183

The MLS gasket is better. If you originally had a no-hole gasket and now have a 2-hole, I'd be measuring the piston protrusion to make sure it's allowable. The difference between gaskets is 0.2mm. Also measure the gasket to confirm, 2-hole should be 1.4mm thick LR Workshop
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15th Oct 2024 9:02am

withabix

Member Since: 24 Sep 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 8

The gasket 565.860 SHOULD be a 4-hole MLS gasket according to Elring, but I've ordered the gasket twice now, only for it to be 2-hole both times.

I just want to fit a no hole (which is the same as 4 hole per LR bulletin in 1997).

Click on Gallery for the photos.

25th Oct 2024 4:40pm

NickMc

Member Since: 01 Oct 2014
Location: Norn Iron
Posts: 1628

Might I suggest getting in touch with Turner Engineering the absolute best people to deal with in LR engines? Frida will probably have it on your doorstep by the time you’ve the phone down!

The answer is even on their website- that’s why they’re the best

Quote:
Thickest 1.6mm has in fact 2 little holes but furtther apart than the 2 hole head gasket

https://www.turnerengineering.co.uk/produc...&_ss=r

25th Oct 2024 7:26pm

withabix

Member Since: 24 Sep 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 8

Elring couldn't tell me that, and told me that it has 4 holes...🤷‍♂️

Suggests that Elring and Reinz might be exactly the same gasket in different packaging though...

I doubt Turner provide quite as fast a service to....VANCOUVER...lol

25th Oct 2024 8:11pm

NickMc

Member Since: 01 Oct 2014
Location: Norn Iron
Posts: 1628

Oh they would! They’re a great company, incredibly knowledgeable, friendly and efficient!

25th Oct 2024 9:00pm

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