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doruk1981

Member Since: 15 Aug 2022
Location: Aargau
Posts: 100

TD5 - Oil filter relocation

Hi,
I just experienced one of the most expensive Oil changes (again) as we had to take off not only the Turbo oil return line but also part of the exhaust to peel out the filter. I would like to utilize an Oil filter relocation kit but would like to ask around if someone already installed a kit and has good recommendations.
Can't be that one oil filter change causes around 4 hours of labor and requires x new gaskets along the way.

Thanks for the recommendations Td5 110 Station

27th Sep 2024 9:53am

ibexman

Member Since: 13 Dec 2008
Location: Essex
Posts: 2955

It’s not that difficult

27th Sep 2024 10:31am

ibexman

Member Since: 13 Dec 2008
Location: Essex
Posts: 2955

Delete

27th Sep 2024 10:32am

TexasRover

Member Since: 24 Nov 2022
Location: Paris
Posts: 1121

2002 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Chawton White

One requires a few different oil filter removal tools in ones tools inventory.

Agree not the best location but never really needed more than a few minutes to remove the filter and pop in a new one. Also wise to have it cooled down as it is a bit awkward to handle it out.

Assuming from your text you had someone else do the work, you need to find a better person or just do it yourself.

27th Sep 2024 10:46am

Penfold_6290

Member Since: 22 Sep 2021
Location: Dorset
Posts: 320

Re: TD5 - Oil filter relocation

doruk1981 wrote:
Hi,
I just experienced one of the most expensive Oil changes (again) as we had to take off not only the Turbo oil return line but also part of the exhaust to peel out the filter. I would like to utilize an Oil filter relocation kit but would like to ask around if someone already installed a kit and has good recommendations.
Can't be that one oil filter change causes around 4 hours of labor and requires x new gaskets along the way.

Thanks for the recommendations

You have my sympathy, I too had to abort a service on a friend's new-to-them Td5 a few months ago because the filter was on so tight I was going to do damage or have to take lots of things apart to take it off. I also thought about a filter relocation for my own Td5 but it never went any further than a thought.

Agreed if you do the job yourself and have fitted the filter carefully - oil on seal, hand tight, no tools, yadda, yadda, it should be easy to spin the old one off. But occasionally they are on FT and my trusty chain filter wrench thingummy won't fit between the filter and the engine and a strap type tool won't grip.

27th Sep 2024 12:37pm

BaronDefenders

Member Since: 28 Jun 2019
Location: London/Cotswolds
Posts: 903

2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Santorini Black

I’m afraid to say, I think you need a different mechanic.

The centrifugal filter is easily removed. All you need is a 10mm socket or spanner. Even with a CJM exhaust manifold, it isn’t difficult to remove the lid for the housing.

The spin-on filter is awkward and it can be fiddly. However, it doesn’t need the exhaust removing. The turbo oil drain shouldn’t get in the way with a standard turbo. I have a VNT and a Pioneer 4x4 turbo oil drain. The Pioneer drain allows me to loosen the pipe and swivel it away, so the filter comes away effortlessly. I use an adjustable filter wrench to take off the filter.

I know not everyone wants to or can service their own vehicle, but it’s an engine that is very suitable for a DIY service. Charlie

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27th Sep 2024 12:40pm

markb110

Member Since: 22 May 2010
Location: Guildford
Posts: 2653

The tool (not the one who thinks that he is running the country...)

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/276081649762?chn=ps&...34fec63e9f

27th Sep 2024 2:54pm

bankz5152

Member Since: 02 Feb 2017
Location: South London/North Kent
Posts: 2188

Both filters should take 45mins max to change. There is no need to remove anything else.

I have a CJM Manifold and a VNT it's tight be still easy to do.

Even when my main filter was over tightened and had to smash a screwdriver thru it it still only took an hour.

You need a better mechanic Instagram @defender_ventures
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27th Sep 2024 4:08pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2917

That tool in the link above looks great. l actually bought one....and it never fitted any of the oil filters l used.

The chain type ones aren't great because they crush the filter and can puncture it, making things worse.
l've got a great removal tool that's works every time, l'll post a picture of it when l get to my garage later.

27th Sep 2024 6:26pm

Nidge

Member Since: 27 Jan 2008
Location: Kildare Ireland
Posts: 821

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Cairns Blue

Just be aware some of the aftermarket filters are slightly longer than genuine LR.
and some can be nightmare to change out.
What I do is Stick with the LR ones and wrap a plastic bag around it while you unscrew it so when you tilt to remove, the oil in the filter doesn't go everywhere.

27th Sep 2024 8:08pm

revd

Member Since: 20 Apr 2024
Location: England
Posts: 163

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Amazon, depending on brand £7-12

steel band is thin enough to slip on to filters even when clearance is limited

The spinning filter housing has captive bolts, back off each bolt a little at a time, if you unscrew one all the way before loosening the second bolt you risk damaging the threads in the alloy housing

27th Sep 2024 8:28pm

MadTom

Member Since: 10 Sep 2013
Location: Olomouc
Posts: 637

Those Ebay keys and plastic bag for old filter made the filter change perfectly doable from previous little nightmare. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo

27th Sep 2024 8:46pm

TexasRover

Member Since: 24 Nov 2022
Location: Paris
Posts: 1121

Nidge wrote:
Just be aware some of the aftermarket filters are slightly longer than genuine LR.
and some can be nightmare to change out.
What I do is Stick with the LR ones and wrap a plastic bag around it while you unscrew it so when you tilt to remove, the oil in the filter doesn't go everywhere.

Britpart actually sells a specifically shorter filter for ease of fit and removal. While I am not shunning Britpart and I am glad we have them to keep parts availability to a suburb level, I don't mind spending a bit more on a better filter.

28th Sep 2024 5:41am

jim4244

Member Since: 13 Apr 2014
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 836

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver

Hi

When I ran my TD5 I always used Bosch oil filters as they were very slightly shorter than Bearmach and other brands. The few millimeter difference really made the job way easier.

Jim

28th Sep 2024 6:49am

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2917

Great advice. Genuine or Bosch filters

l once bought another brand and l just couldn't get it on to the screw threads. lt was fractionally too long, but it looked like it would fit.

l spent ages on it and the neighbours learnt some new words that they probably hadn't heard since they were at school.

28th Sep 2024 9:03am

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