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| poundnote Member Since: 29 Oct 2022 Location: llanelli Posts: 8   
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My 2007 defender puma the headlights and main beam are not working. Changed the switch but still the same. The main beam flash is working Side lights Etc. Checked the fuses but still nothing. Any help please
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10th Aug 2024 5:55pm |
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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 808  
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Did you change the switch with a genuine Lucas one? 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
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10th Aug 2024 6:55pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17353 
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Which switch did you change, the off-s&t-hs&t switch or the dip/flash/indicate switch?
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10th Aug 2024 7:02pm |
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| poundnote Member Since: 29 Oct 2022 Location: llanelli Posts: 8
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I had an aftermarket switch from Paddock spares it was the side lights and dipped beam switch. The flash main beam works.
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10th Aug 2024 7:36pm |
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| poundnote Member Since: 29 Oct 2022 Location: llanelli Posts: 8
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I was thinking If I put a wire in the live on the connector and put it into the feed for the headlight. will that tell me if it is the switch
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10th Aug 2024 7:39pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20299
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^^^^ This.
When I had problems I thought it might be the headlight switch, replaced it and still the same, so replaced the stalk also and then stat solved it. I believe it was the stalk and its contacts that was at fault as the circuits for the light switch go through it if I remember rightly. Which is surprising as you’d tend to think its main beam permanent of main beam flash only, but it isn’t there is the dipped as well. ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️ |
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10th Aug 2024 10:07pm |
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| poundnote Member Since: 29 Oct 2022 Location: llanelli Posts: 8
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Ok I will order the other switch as well that is the one with the indicators as well I take it??
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10th Aug 2024 10:32pm |
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| poundnote Member Since: 29 Oct 2022 Location: llanelli Posts: 8
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I have ordered the other switch. but in the meantime I was wandering if it could be the relay. But I don't know where it is. Can anyone help please
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11th Aug 2024 7:46pm |
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| Benjiwill Member Since: 27 Feb 2023 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 1  
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I have just had same issue on 2008 90. Ordered both switches, no difference Had no headlamps just main beam on pulled back stalk.
My solution by luck was open fuse box under steering column to see if I could see the relay, couldn’t work out which it was so gave them all a good wiggle and push in Problem solved all lights up and working again! |
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15th Aug 2024 10:27pm |
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| macfrank Member Since: 05 Nov 2015 Location: somewhere in the north Posts: 1071  
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Circuit logic is this:
The high beam flash (pulling back the stalk) is directly powered from the battery, hence it'll work even with ignition off. If that works, obviously high beam lamps and wiring are ok. High and low beam are powered via the (short) light switch, ignition-powered relay, long stalk/switch. So if both high and low beam aren't working it's most likely one of the two switches or the relay (or a fuse). If only high beam is working, it's the long stalk's low-beam contact and vice versa, i.e. the short light switch is ok. From MY 2012 IIRC a relay was added to avoid premature frying of the light switch's contacts (R117). The high beam switch has to bear the full current nevertheless.  Click image to enlarge (Fuse numbers are different for earlier MYs but circuit is the same.) |
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17th Aug 2024 8:50pm |
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| poundnote Member Since: 29 Oct 2022 Location: llanelli Posts: 8
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Changed both switches still didn't work so shorted out they relay (pink one)YWC10050 and they worked so ordered new relay.
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18th Aug 2024 5:22pm |
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| poundnote Member Since: 29 Oct 2022 Location: llanelli Posts: 8
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I changed the relay and worked great but after just 10 minutes the relay went again. so shorted it out for the MOT but any ideas why it would go again or is it ok to use with a short in.
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11th Sep 2024 3:23pm |
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