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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4703  
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You had a lucky escape. I know the deed is done but it would be helpful to know what caused this fire. Hopefully you will get some closure on this and that you insurance company treats you fairly.
What model was it? 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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11th Jul 2024 5:25pm |
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| johnlad Member Since: 18 Dec 2023 Location: Blackpool Posts: 54 
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Is it not covered by warranty?
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11th Jul 2024 5:28pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4703
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"The car was transported to Land Rover. For now, it's difficult to say what caused the fire but it had something to do with the electrical circuit. Adding to the frustration, after just two days with a courtesy car from Land Rover assistance, I was told they still didn’t know what caused the fire and that I needed to return the provided car. Now, my insurance has to cover the cost of an expert to determine what went wrong."
You would think Land Rover would be doing more to ascertain the cause of this fire and be more pro active with the customer. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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11th Jul 2024 5:44pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2643  
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Did it have the recent EGR oil seal recall?
My wife had it with her Velar (along with the security update) and i thought that this was a potential point for a fire. I don't have the paperwork anymore to confirm this. |
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11th Jul 2024 9:01pm |
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| HardCharger Member Since: 03 Mar 2013 Location: Manila Posts: 740  
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Well at least you know there is no discrimination at Land Rover. They apparently treat the new owners like the Legendary unit owners. Once they have your money, good luck to you and we're sure you'll keep it running.  |
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12th Jul 2024 12:41am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17442 
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I think the subject of spontaneous combustion is a rather unwelcome one at Land-Rover at present due to the number of high-profile and very expensive incidents. It also seems to be policy to deny the possibility of the existence of any problem until the evidence is overwhelming.
Sadly I wouldn't expect any particular satisfaction from LR. |
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12th Jul 2024 7:05am |
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| trollx Member Since: 10 Dec 2022 Location: Rzeszow Posts: 4 
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I've done little bit more research and actually I've found some similar stories about HVAC that was turning on. That's what exactly happened. HVAC turned on (although the car was off for several hours) and started to work like crazy. That overloaded the fuses and I think it was the reason why the fire started. The question remains -> why HVAC launched itself.
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12th Jul 2024 7:48am |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: UK Posts: 1399 
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My mates RRS Hybrid. Spontaneously combusted on the motorway. Less than six months old.
 Click image to enlarge Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy. |
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12th Jul 2024 8:11am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2839
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lt's not confined to Land Rover products.
Type in any manufacturer followed by "fire" and you'll see similar. l tried Ferrari, Ford, Vauxhall, Honda followed by "car fire" and found similar stories and various recalls. With vehicle fires it can be complicated, it's often difficult to determine what happened and the owners insurance ends up paying out. |
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12th Jul 2024 8:27am |
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| chpsk8 Member Since: 26 Sep 2023 Location: Midwest Posts: 45 
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It is considered an unplanned thermal event. Nothing to see here...
 
Good Luck OP - we hope JLR can sort this out to your satisfaction |
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12th Jul 2024 5:57pm |
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| stevemfr Member Since: 18 Sep 2022 Location: Strasbpurg Posts: 138 
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No, actually the question remains - what caused the fire. Fuses are there to 'burn' through when they are overloaded. And the 'burn' can NOT cause a fire. It just melts a wire of a specific current carrying capacity. Regardless of what turned on when, it should not be possible for the car to catch fire. Period. Any system in the vehicle at any time. The worst case should be flat batteries and, possibly, popped ('burnt' through) fuses. Where was the fire and how did you stop it?
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr, P38, and 2 L322s, 2 FL1s and a L663 on the way |
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13th Jul 2024 9:20am |
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| trollx Member Since: 10 Dec 2022 Location: Rzeszow Posts: 4
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The fire started in or near Engine Junction Box. Once I noticed the fire I just started to pour water on it from a hose.
And just to give you an update -> I just received a letter from LR with contract proposal that they want me to sign. In summary -> - they will contact my insurance and they will lead that case in my name - if for some reason insurance will tell them it's not willing to pay -> I will be charged. I also learned that under warranty LR policy bans to fix any car that went through fire. Nice approach  |
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15th Jul 2024 11:26am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2839
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lt's a difficult one with car fires.
The issue would be to determine what caused the fire. Was it an electrical failure, something like a stone flying up from the road causing damage, an animal gnawed through wiring (more common than you might think) or even someone tampered with the vehicle. You may have to commission an independent inspection of the vehicle to try and determine the cause of the fire. |
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15th Jul 2024 12:41pm |
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| stevemfr Member Since: 18 Sep 2022 Location: Strasbpurg Posts: 138
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If all is as you say, it's a load of crap from LR. Hire a lawyer and escalate the case to LR Poland (not just your local dealer) immediately. Or contact JLR in the UK.
And lightning's advice is gold - have an independent expertise done before LR get's hold of the vehicle. But your lawyer should take care of that.
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr, P38, and 2 L322s, 2 FL1s and a L663 on the way |
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15th Jul 2024 1:13pm |
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