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Edd80Inch



Member Since: 18 Oct 2008
Location: Devon
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 90 Td5 HT Rioja Red
Sump Pan Again
I have today got my 2008 90 back from the main dealers after its 12 month service. I asked them to replace the sump as per the technical service buletin. Guess what they refused! they told me that they had checked the tolerances and everthing was within its limits! And as the sump wasnt marked they wouldnt change it! What a load of B******s.

My front nearside shock absorber is leaking badly, guess what im booked to go back in 2 weeks time!!!

Well a call to Land Rover Customer Service is on the cards tomorrow.

Im really not happy.

How have you managed to get the Dealers to change them?

Edd 1999 90 TD5 County
1943 Ford GPW Jeep
Post #10345 29th Apr 2009 5:12pm
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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
I told the stealer : do you want to change the sump or change the engine. He did not hesitate. So he changed when I did the 10kkm service. Otherwise, who will pay for the new oil? Puma 110" SW

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Post #10348 29th Apr 2009 6:29pm
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Eduardo



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
EddInch


New sumps start to appear in April 2008 and as far as I remember during 2008 all of the old sumps were changed (at least here in Chile and also I heard the same from UK and AUS)

Are you sure that you have the old one?
If you have it, figth for the new one, as MK said it is far more expensive have a motor dead than change this little piece of metal.

Cheers and good luck ! Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Post #10349 29th Apr 2009 6:40pm
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Edd80Inch



Member Since: 18 Oct 2008
Location: Devon
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 90 Td5 HT Rioja Red
Thanks Chaps,

I have the old type sump my car was registered in April 2008 and is within the vin range, I tried 'would you rather replace the sump or the engine' but whilst the dealer said the sump he still refused to change it.

I have driven Land Rovers all my driving career and finaly have managed to afford a new one, however I feel let down not by the product but by the LR backup.

We will see what tomorrow brings, Thanks again.

Edd 1999 90 TD5 County
1943 Ford GPW Jeep
Post #10357 29th Apr 2009 8:08pm
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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Then try to get your rig`s axles fully articulated to check the tolerance. In this way perhaps you`ll get scratches on the sump. Puma 110" SW

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Post #10360 29th Apr 2009 9:01pm
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alantd



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
or clout the corner with a hammer - that'll leave scratches One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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Post #10362 29th Apr 2009 9:27pm
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Edd80Inch



Member Since: 18 Oct 2008
Location: Devon
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 90 Td5 HT Rioja Red
Thanks MK, I had already planned to bring it into our workshop tomorrow and do just this.

I work in Plant Hire, and I have been working on all things mechanical since I was a boy, but I am still amazed by the crap that these dealers fob you of with.

I will keep you informed.

Edd 1999 90 TD5 County
1943 Ford GPW Jeep
Post #10364 29th Apr 2009 9:29pm
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sasha2001



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Russia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Tonga Green
Post #10367 29th Apr 2009 9:45pm
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TJ101



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sasha2001 wrote:
here is a photo of new pan
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic1119.html


Ignore the date on my picture, in that link

More or less the full story here http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic222-15.html

To be honest, the dealer did not want to know to begin with,, to the point of refusing to change it,, took a call to customer services, to get it sorted, and the service bloke at the dealer to eat his words !!!! This was 12-18 months ago mind !!! California F1, 75th 110 "Kermit", 50th Ann V8, 90 V8 Hybrid, 55 Series 1

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Post #10370 29th Apr 2009 11:22pm
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vogue se



Member Since: 24 Jan 2008
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The sump on mine was replaced at 10K including new oil. So first service was at 30K and not 20K.

The dealer told me that they still replace the sumps under warranty but charge for the oil.
Post #10377 30th Apr 2009 10:32am
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Edd80Inch



Member Since: 18 Oct 2008
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 90 Td5 HT Rioja Red
Rang Customer Services today, they have opened a case and I have emailed pictures of my current sump. Things seem to be moving in the right direction!

I am away for a few days but I will update on here when I have the full story and a conclusion.

I have at least one dealer in the UK who has told me they would replace the sump without question if I booked it in with them.

Cheers Edd. 1999 90 TD5 County
1943 Ford GPW Jeep
Post #10398 30th Apr 2009 7:13pm
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