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Setok



Member Since: 16 Jan 2009
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Grockle wrote:
When we had the RR franchise back in the 90's they were far worse than the LR's of to-day,and they weren't 4x4 Laughing


Assuming RR is Rolls Royce then yes, I've read some bad reports on them too. That really is a case of "They don't make 'em like the used to", as super reliability was one of the things that made RR so famous. The original engineers would not be pleased.
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Leo



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Kenya 
Setok wrote:
.........many say that is one of the main factors contributing to the rise of the Jap 4x4s everywhere (whereas LR used to dominate the market).

So I have a really hard time swallowing the claim that all cars have problems to the same degree.......


You are 100% correct - the only reason why the 70-series Landcruiser (and in the past, the 40, 55, 80) are so popular is because the Defender is so unreliable. In all areas, the Land Rover beats it, except reliabilty (and maybe engine power) but when your business or safety depends on a dependable vehicle, you can't take too many risks.
Post #10352 29th Apr 2009 6:56pm
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Setok



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It's kind of telling that not long ago I saw someone asking which vehicle to use for an expedition, and someone responded with "Toyota" ... on a LR forum! I don't think the answer is 100% true as there have been loads of magnificent expeditions i in LRs, but it is kind of telling.
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Eduardo



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Well,

JDPower study shown that LR (Defenders not included) is far away from Toyota in overall quality, dependability and Greennish isues. But LR is better in Overall Performance and Design.

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/car-ratings/

So, we have a pretty nice car when its work... Evil or Very Mad


Cheers Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Post #10358 29th Apr 2009 8:16pm
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Setok



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It's a pity JD Power doesn't include the Defender. Based on everything I've heard, it is by far the most dependable of the LR range.
Post #10361 29th Apr 2009 9:21pm
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Eduardo



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Setok wrote:
It's a pity JD Power doesn't include the Defender. Based on everything I've heard, it is by far the most dependable of the LR range.


Unfortunately, the JD Power study include only the cars sell in USA were Defenders are not allowed. Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Post #10369 29th Apr 2009 10:30pm
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bob neville



Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
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Spain 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Hi

I have a new Defender 110 XS double cab that is less than a week old and so far only 2 days in the garage !

Problems

1. Diesel pipe/sensor damaged resulting in half a tank of fuel lasting for 50 miles ! I put more fuel in to get back to the dealer and left a diesel slick on the A303 !
2. Numerous areas of damage on the bodywork - being fixed soon. During the fuel leak resolution the dealer managed to damage the front n/s wing and uncover an are on the back that had not been painted !
3. Central locking locking itself again in about a second ! This seems to have cleared for the present.
4. Water in the footwells - needs new seals but they are on backorder.


My dealer has been very supportive and the vehicle runs like a dream now the fuel leak has been sorted !

The problems I have had so far are nothing compared to my last car, a Porsche Cayman ! If you think Land Rovers have problems try Porsche !
Post #10382 30th Apr 2009 12:45pm
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rangra



Member Since: 21 Mar 2009
Location: Wiltshire
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Bustduster - re point 4, see post I started under general 'Fixed Clutch' LAND ROVER DEFENDER 110 XS SW 2.4
Post #10403 30th Apr 2009 10:26pm
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