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Cragster69 Member Since: 15 Jun 2021 Location: Scotland Posts: 182 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hopefully it's the Park Switch
This link has a really helpful guide to replacing the park switch on a TDCI, yours being a 300TDI I would think it would be even simpler ![]() https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic57823.html Craig. “Don't believe everything you read on the internet.” ― Abraham Lincoln www.scotgrc.co.uk |
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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20033 ![]() ![]() |
As above, I think it’s least likely to be the motor, if it’s not the park switch then possibly the rack and wheel boxes.
You shouldn’t have much trouble, try the park switch as mentioned, failing that the rack and wheel boxes, after that only leaves the motor. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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jim4244 Member Since: 13 Apr 2014 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 721 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thanks for the input guys 👍
I’ve ordered a Lucas wiper park switch so will let you know how I get on when it arrives. Dare I say it…. Replacement looks straight forward….🧐 Jim |
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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20033 ![]() ![]() |
On a Puma it’s a nightmare, you can get at it just, but for easy access the entire dash comes out.
Both are a pain, I did mine last year. A word of warning, to everyone else, at this time of year everything gets dry through the summer. Don’t forget to often release the wipers for the glass so they don’t get stuck and also use the wash wipe fairly periodically. Not only will that treat the windscreen, especially useful if you use Rain X, but it will keep the wiper wheel boxes and spindles free from getting sticky and seizing. When they are not used for a long time the grease can harden, then the spindles can seize and after or during the summer when it rains, when you want the wipers, possibly in a situation they are critical, they can pack up! If they get stuck up the screen on a sweep then you’ve got trouble imminent, and you shall likely be able to probably free them for a short period, by nudging them into action with wiper on, but is a sign they need an overhaul imminently before they seize completely. And though it’s only a job to replace them every ten years or more thankfully! It’s not an ideal job to have right in the middle of the winter, unless you have a garage, workshop or are happy to pay a considerable labour fee. But as I mentioned, periodically use the wash and wipe, because when they (the wiper spindles, wheel boxes) sit for weeks and months that’s when they get stuck and the grease hardens. When I did mine, the wheel boxes, rack and arms were replaced, the motor was absolutely fine and I replaced the park switch for good measure. When the wheel boxes and rack get sticky and the grease hardens up the motor works harder than it should, the wiper sweep and motor should be quite, quiet when in good order. Provided the wipers are decent, many these days are not that great. ![]() |
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Chugaboom Member Since: 02 Mar 2022 Location: Sussex Posts: 30 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Just for info, had to have mine replaced last week, box, cables etc, didn’t fancy taken the dash out and have a great local landrover garage.
It came to £400 parts and labour . |
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hornet Member Since: 04 Jan 2010 Location: Western Europe Posts: 357 ![]() |
There is also a video on this, if it is just the switch it looks relatively simple. LHD-vehicle and in german.
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hornet Member Since: 04 Jan 2010 Location: Western Europe Posts: 357 ![]() |
I can only expressly support this, when mine stood around dry for 3 weeks I first had to move the wipers with gentle force and spray a lot of penetrating oil into the shaft (under the cover cap) to keep the system running. I was really holding my breath! |
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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20033 ![]() ![]() |
Definitely, and you can guarantee that it will be before an autumn MOT for example just to spice the situation up.
![]() Oh and probably raining as well for a few weeks at that time of year. ![]() Last edited by custom90 on 15th May 2024 3:27pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17192 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
TO quote one of my own posts from 2011 (wow, what a long time ago that seems to be)!:
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custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20033 ![]() ![]() |
And very well, and articulately explained too Blackwolf.
![]() I’m glad I did mine last year, and not this year. They are working A1 now, nice and quiet too. ![]() Last edited by custom90 on 15th May 2024 4:18pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 663 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
BW - Point 10 - I recommend only removing the outboard bolt and loosening the inner one. The inner is a
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jim4244 Member Since: 13 Apr 2014 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 721 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Bloody hell! Spent 1.5 hours fitting the new switch and nothing…
I’ve checked that the wires are correct. Checked the fuse again - all good. Now looking at the relay. Are any of the other relays on a 2.4 Tdci the same? It has one of the “99” relays fitted for the wipers which isn’t making any noise at all when the wipers are operated? Jim |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17192 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The "relay" isn't actually a "relay" as such and is different to everything else on the vehicle. The high speed wipe isn't switched by the not-a-relay and the motor should run on high speed even with the not-a-relay removed completely.
If you connect receptacles 2 and 5 in connector C0303 (the "not-a-relay" socket) the wipers should function fully and normally as twin speed, self-parking wipers, just without the intermittent and wipe-on-squirt features. This makes it very easy to diagnose a park switch fault as opposed to a timer (not-a-relay) unit fault. For more info on how it works you might want to read my post here |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17192 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Incidentally I notice that on the 2.2 Puma there is an additional relay in the wiper circuit which will entirely kill the power to the front wipers in the event that the inertia switch operates. There is no equivalent relay on the 2.4 and on these the power is protected only by a fuse.
I presume that this is to prevent the wipers taking your eye out after a bad crash in a 2.2. I don't think I have a diagram for the 300TDi unfortunately so cannot check that, however I would be surprised if it had a similar relay. |
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