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| DFNDER Member Since: 02 Oct 2023 Location: Perth WA Posts: 134  
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MY23.5 P400SE, same issue, the phone gets very hot. I don't use the charge pad for my Samsung, I prefer my quadlock windscreen mount with charge head.
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30th Apr 2024 11:52pm |
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| roverhaul Member Since: 07 Jul 2023 Location: New York Posts: 8 
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Same issues with L460 but on that it's in an enclosed box. I've had the temps in that area go to 100F consistently even when not charging.
I had a loaner L663 last week with the same phone overheat errors even with the area being totally exposed. It seems to affect certain phones more. Cases can make a difference too. I'm using a iPhone 15 Pro, no case. I've been documenting it on the L460 for months now. I even 3D printed an alternate mount using the Apple MagSafe puck. It solved the problem for me. But obviously a JLR issue, they could add come cooling. The engineers I've spoken with about it all blame the phone manufacturers... |
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6th May 2024 2:39pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Same issue with it in my 2020 first edition so when I specced my 2023 90 I didn’t tick that box. Phones don’t just get hot in Defenders though, my previous electric Mini’s induction pad did the same but in my new Countryman the induction pad has its own cooling vent and so far no problems with a hot 2020 iPhone S E Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 7th May 2024 10:47am. Edited 1 time in total |
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6th May 2024 4:57pm |
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| Mr Fox Member Since: 10 Sep 2011 Location: green & pleasant land Posts: 1037  
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If the phone is overheating, it could suggest the charge rate is too quick and, if connected to the JLR system, the processing demands of the Apple Car Play / Android Auto are pushing it over the edge.
Whilst not the same, I have this fitted and have never had that issue. I can't say it charges the battery rapidly but it does keep it at least at the level it was before connecting to the car and generally charges it above said level on drives over 15-minutes. https://www.powerfuluk.com/collections/new...hand-drive IMHO, the above works well and in my use has not suffered from what is being described. My phone is in a case, so again, there is an extra layer which stops heat dissipating as it should; however, I haven't had a problem with this. The only downside to the above is that the units they now supply have a logo in the centre square but this can be removed with a little time and patience, which gives a more factory look. |
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6th May 2024 5:36pm |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 592
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Had the same on the L460, my iPhone would get really hot and MRS RDRs iPhone would often shut down with a high temperature warning. Dealer investigated with no fix found but confirmed its a common issue suggesting sticking to wired when using the phone for CarPlay or long calls
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7th May 2024 6:59am |
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| roverhaul Member Since: 07 Jul 2023 Location: New York Posts: 8
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Yeah the L460 warnings are more dire with the phone being disabled for a bit. The L663 just gets hot and then the phone stops charging.
That front cubby in the L460 runs way hotter. I took a bunch of thermal images and without a phone charging at all, that box got over 35C consistently with the door closed. Now stick a heater (wirelessly charging iPhone) and it's a losing proposition. I'll post pics if anyone wants to see but not trying to kill you all here with L460 stuff. JLR engineer said it should work better with a case because that will level out the phone on the pad. |
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7th May 2024 2:34pm |
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| ardevd Member Since: 04 Mar 2024 Location: Norway Posts: 36 
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The problem is likely an alignment issue with the inductive charging coils and/or iPhone specific compatibility issues. I see this on a bunch of other vehicle models too. Android devices generally seem to fare better, but it could simply be that the camera hump leads to a poor connection, leading to increased heat generation.
As we all learned in school, energy can’t be created or destroyed, so what doesn’t end up in your phone battery comes as heat instead. |
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17th May 2024 5:50pm |
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| sasa Member Since: 05 Mar 2024 Location: ceska lipa Posts: 51 
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Hello,
I would like to know what version of pivi you have? Version 4.1.4 should fix Carplay, didn't help? I was going to retrofit the original wireless charging but this scared me  |
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3rd Jun 2024 7:22am |
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| TSY Member Since: 27 Feb 2024 Location: Colorado Posts: 11
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I'm current on sota update / this isn't wholly a programming problem - more a physical/physics design issue.
fysa- I've chatted with an engineer friend who said the apple magnet-mount compatible cases can interfere with some of the chi chargers physics that can compound heat issues. ... ditching the case and seeing if thing's do better. And after this, going basic mode : cable. 🤟 |
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4th Jun 2024 3:51pm |
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