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CrisEverett1975



Member Since: 26 Aug 2022
Location: High Wycombe
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Radio Ariel replacement Defender 110
Hi,

Strange question but I hoped you guys might be able to help.

I had my car in the garage and they delivered it back with a snapped ariel. They have now replaced it and it appears to rake in, into the drivers vision. I've never really noticed that before. The garage are telling me that's how it is fittted.
Could anyone post a picture of a PUMA factory ariel extended and if it leans 20-30% into the drivers view.
Thanks,

Cris
Post #1030920 8th Apr 2024 8:07am
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stanley



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Orkney Grey
Not the best photo as I don’t have the defender anymore. Big Cry
But I can’t remember mine being particularly raked

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Post #1030922 8th Apr 2024 8:16am
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swt



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
My factory aerial (2008 Puma), before I replaced it, was definitely not raked. The Naka replacement sits completely vertical too, although the mounting is not identical.

I've always found that the aerial is within the driver's view, and I prefer the short black Naka one to the tall shiny factory fit partly for that reason (and better reception: function over form!).

From memory, the factory aerial has a mount inside the wing, so the angle is not dependent on the top of the wing: a tiny adjustment below would produce a larger effect above when the aerial is extended.

If the rain stops I will take a photo...
Post #1030928 8th Apr 2024 8:46am
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CrisEverett1975



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

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This I think is wrong on mine
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Definitely. Should be dead vertical.
Post #1030975 8th Apr 2024 4:45pm
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custom90



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Vertical for both Gen and Naka versions, has it been pushed out of position from underneath?
The hidden section below goes into a black tube if I remember rightly, may have been knocked to the side.
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Post #1031017 8th Apr 2024 9:57pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
There is (or should be) a clip inside on the inner wing which holds the black plastic tube into which the aerial retracts. I wonder if the tube hasn't been inserted into the clip correctly.

It is a surprisingly awkward thing to see, since it is under the wing in an inaccessible spot and the bonnet gets in the way of your head. A torch and small mirror (or I suppose a smart phone in video/photo mode) might help you see what is going on.

There is definitely something not right about that one though! Italian, from Pisa perhaps?
Post #1031048 9th Apr 2024 8:48am
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jcw



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
I fitted a genuine LR aerial to my 90 recently and as above, assuming yours is also genuine, there is no angle adjustment, it should sit vertically.

The two clamps that sit either side of the wing are flat and once tightened, set the upright angle.

Here’s a genuine aerial showing the arrangement. As Blackwolf referenced, there’s another bracket that attaches to the inner wing and the black plastic section of the aerial, but that’s just to keep it all sturdy.


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If it’s not a genuine aerial, perhaps it does have some adjustment of the angle.
Post #1031053 9th Apr 2024 9:44am
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CrisEverett1975



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Thanks all for your help. I thought I remembered it being vertical.
Post #1031075 9th Apr 2024 12:52pm
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markb110



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Post #1031076 9th Apr 2024 1:12pm
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custom90



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jcw wrote:
If it’s not a genuine aerial, perhaps it does have some adjustment of the angle.

This is quite possible, I’ve seen parts that has angle adjustment that is optional to fit.
That being said, I think it’s probably more likely it’s been knocked or hit accidentally.

If you ever go on a Byway, with the aerial up, it’s very easy for it to get bent or snapped off.
There are some that are electrically mechanised so come up when the HU radio is on, they aren’t that common though.
The Naka one is good for most use I think, it works well. No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #1031105 9th Apr 2024 7:32pm
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
Can you still slide it in and out?

What happens if you 'twist' it by 180degree? does is slant outwards instead?

I believe the clip that Blackwolf refers to is on the bulkhead, and there seems to be quite some adjustment that can be done.


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Edit: Ignore that its not a Puma bulkhead, but the aerial anchor is the same. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #1031109 9th Apr 2024 7:58pm
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Screbble



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Here is a photo of said clip from when I was replacing my ABS Modulator - not a great pic but might help 👍



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Post #1031113 9th Apr 2024 8:35pm
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