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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579   
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It’s only really hard tops and pick ups that can be put through as a commercial as far as I am aware.
The class of N1 only helps with the road tax. Pre 12 reg have the more expensive road tax if they are station wagon. HMRC issued a note at the time saying station wagon Landrovers are classed as car for BIK. |
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26th Mar 2024 9:08pm |
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| Welshsurferdude Member Since: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Newport Posts: 2398 
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110 Utility station wagons IE 5 seat 5 door with the van panels on the back are classed as dual purpose vehicles/commercials 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) 2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS 2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold) 2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) |
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26th Mar 2024 9:52pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17353 
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They're ALL Dual Purpose Vehicles, that's nothing to do with road tax nor BIK status!
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26th Mar 2024 10:24pm |
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| Welshsurferdude Member Since: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Newport Posts: 2398
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Not all are DPV though some are high tax some are cheap as some are Private cars, some are commercials. all depends on the M1 or N1 classification 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)
2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS 2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold) 2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) |
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26th Mar 2024 10:27pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17353
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No, they're all DPV. It's nothing to do with tax, type approval nor HMRC, it is only to do with C&U Regs.
The only Defenders which are not DPV would be those with an unladen weight in excess of 2040kg or those which do not have full or part time all-wheel drive. All standard Defenders are DPV. Special vehicles such as 6x6, 6x4, cherry pickers, are not. |
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26th Mar 2024 11:01pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2735
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So if l buy a post 2007 USW or post 2011 USW/SW l can claim Commercial BIK of £700 and put it through my limited company as a commercial vehicle?
The reason l ask is that HMRC has a specific mention of "Defender Station Wagons being a car" for tax purposes. Probably because they've been asked the question so many times! A similar problem has occurred with the ineos Grenadier. DVLA class it as Commercial but HMRC don't. So you pay a fortune in BIK if using one as a company vehicle. |
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27th Mar 2024 7:50am |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3368
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The Utility station wagons were also classed as vans for benefit in kind in purposes. 5 seats but no rear windows and payload over 1000kg. (As comparison, the grenadier with a similar format doesn't qualify due to the payload of +/- 750kg)
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27th Mar 2024 7:53am |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2142 
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we were advised that a SW (either 90 or 110) was classed as a 'car' by HMRC
as above a 110 USW or any hardtop / pick-up is required...... |
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27th Mar 2024 9:15am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17353
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110 DC is also classed as commercial.
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27th Mar 2024 9:42am |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579
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I don’t think 4 and seven seat vehicles are classed as dual purpose. They are cars I believe.
Had a google but only found this Land rover Defender Station Wagons Specific guidance has already been released by HMRC confirming they have always considered these vehicles to be cars for tax purposes. Hard top including xs models are and as too pick ups and double cabs |
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27th Mar 2024 8:02pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2735
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What about the 110 Utility Station Wagon?
l believe that to be classed as "dual purpose" you have to be able to run it in 2wd. For instance the Suzuki Jimny Commercial is classsd as such as it only has part time 4wd. So it can be put through a LTD company for tax purposes. |
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10th Apr 2024 8:07pm |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3368
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Not sure where the must be 2wd thing came from?
The .GOV website states "Dual purpose vehicles A dual purpose vehicle is a vehicle constructed or adapted for the carriage both of passengers and of goods and designed to weigh no more than 2,040 kg when unladen, and is either: constructed or adapted so that the driving power of the engine is, or can be selected to be, transmitted to all wheels of the vehicle or permanently fitted with a rigid roof, at least one row of transverse passenger seats to the rear of the driver’s seat and will have side and rear windows - there must also be a minimum ratio between the size of passenger and stowage areas See The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 (Part 1 Regulation 3) for the full definition." Tbf, the 'dual purpose vehicle' status doesn't have any bearing on the benefit in kind treatment for income tax treatment anyway. |
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11th Apr 2024 6:49am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2735
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Thank you for the post.
Looks like my information was incorrect. So the USW 110 would be classed as Commercial by HMRC? And would that be all versions (TD5, 2.4, 2.2) or just the post 2011? |
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11th Apr 2024 8:49am |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3368
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The USW110 was only officially available from the 2.4 onwards and was specifically targeted at those buyers wanting a vehicle they could run as a company van and therefore the lower BIK.
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11th Apr 2024 2:58pm |
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