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| 458GT Member Since: 22 Jun 2022 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 84  |
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8th Feb 2024 6:05pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20576 
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BW - No real definitive answer really to your question, but I just found this thread which may be of interest to you? https://www.trucknetuk.com/t/chain-tension...ful/171425 Though a different subject, Hi Lift jacks are something to treat with extreme caution too, but, with the Hi Lift, it’s uses are more beneficial and there isn’t really a better / safer alternative to it’s use precise use. A bottle jack is a lot safer in most situations, but, not all, and the Hi Lift is beneficial in certain situations for jacking. In some cases the only option. But, has other good uses as well. Back on subject, I see on Trucking Hell or Trucking Heavy on tv, they mainly use cross over chains with ratchet screw type tensioners. (X type rigged). With the chains orientation designed to resist, forward, backwards to sideways movement by self tightening under momentary load. Both front and rear, which counter loads one another depending on which direction the load tries to shift. I think a similar, or identical load securing methodology is used for Tank transport on low loaders too. Rear steer on the trailers is really something to see, Kings Heavy Haulage isn’t too far from me. KEEP CALM AND Drill ON 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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8th Feb 2024 8:22pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17539 
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That article highlights exactly the reason why sensible people don't use over-centre binders or dwangs, they are spectacularly lethal!
On the subject of Kings HH, many years ago I contracted them to move one of my cranes, a Coles Milo weighing in at around 40 tons and significantly overweight (a notifiable journey under STGO Cat 2 regs). They must have been having an off day, I think, because Laurel and Hardy turned up with a low loader. The winch broke, they forgot to fold out the deck extenders so the outer wheels on one axle were hanging off the deck, and they refused to load the jib sections on the trailer as agreed beforehand. It was funny in hindsight but both frustrating and mildly embarrassing at the time since we were on a secure MoD site with a very strict and proper safety regime to load. The operation did not really conform to the method statement I'd agreed with the MoD. The TV programmes featuring Kings suggest that the standard has improved since then, it was many years ago, and Laurel and Hardy must have retired by now. Last edited by blackwolf on 9th Feb 2024 8:36am. Edited 1 time in total |
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8th Feb 2024 9:09pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2109 
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Mmmm was it a Derby Coles Crane or a Sunderland Coles Crane? Any pics?
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8th Feb 2024 9:21pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20576
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BW - Yes, it depends on the driver attitude as well, and upon the mood of the day I think.
I guess for some, it’s not helped by the attitude of some other drivers on the road, when they regularly get cut up towing 40 to 100tonne. Last time I saw the programme, they had two HGV’s fully loaded and an escort van, and a driver of a passenger car deliberately got between the two trucks, and as they approached a roundabout the car driver decided to try and overtake on the roundabout and got panicked when they realised they were running out of road due to the trailer… I seem to remember there was another big outfit in Yorkshire, ran from a family farm and another with its primary colours of orange ran by a chap called Adam. I don’t recall the names of them now off the top of my head, there was another in the SE Lantern Recovery KEEP CALM AND Drill ON 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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8th Feb 2024 9:47pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17539
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Sunderland. A 20-ton capacity diesel-electric crane built c. 1954, seen here in company with my 1961 Iron Fairy Six which I bought later. I subsequently sold the Coles, it wasn't the most practical machine, and the Fairy rendered it superfluous. The Fairy is big, the Coles was HUGE! Note the teeny-weeny-looking Disco2 in the near distance in one photo.  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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8th Feb 2024 9:52pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2109
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Very nice - both cranes - and do I see your Discovery in the distance…
Do you still own the Iron Fairy? |
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8th Feb 2024 9:56pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17539
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Yes, that's my Disco. I certainly do still have the IF, and no plans to move it on!
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8th Feb 2024 10:01pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2109
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I need to apologise for hijacking the thread - but for very good reason…
Blackwolf - we need an Iron Fairy thread in Off Topic please! |
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8th Feb 2024 10:04pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2100
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I love this forum... I now want a crane
 ... and from other topics ....a uni mog as well  , and a Massey Ferguson tractor.. |
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9th Feb 2024 1:10am |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2109
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You’re not the only one - but don’t tell anyone else…
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9th Feb 2024 7:40am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17539
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The Yorkshire firm is Metcalfe Farms, they do a lot of work moving big green things for the MoD. The "orange" firm is probably Crouch Recovery, a very well-known and capable operator. A side business of the Crouch group is dealing in ex-Military and historic heavy vehicles - the go-to guys if you want a Scammell Constructor or Foden Heavy Recovery vehicle (and who doesn't?)! There is also Allelys Heavy Haulage (mainly blue units with mainly red trailers), well known for.years in the "heavy" sector but now also major players in the"super heavy" sector once dominated by the likes of ALE. It's an industry I would have loved to get into but it hardly existed at the time I had to make that kind of life-direction decision.  |
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9th Feb 2024 7:42am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17539
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It's taken a long time, but I now realise that I need one of these. I am not sure why, but the feeling is strong! Can be picked up (with full CES) for less than half the price of a pre-owned Ineos Grenadier at the moment. 
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9th Feb 2024 8:46am |
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| hank Member Since: 12 Sep 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 2314 
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You've been watching too much Mr Hewes! > 110 XS Double Cab
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9th Feb 2024 10:25am |
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