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| Leo Member Since: 25 Apr 2009 Location: under an acacia Posts: 22  
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Looks like it has a roll cage. The A-pillars are really weak on these things.
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25th Apr 2009 7:14pm |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2415  
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http://www.rionegro.com.ar/diario/2008/07/12/20087v12s10.php#
Apparently they do not go further back over the second row. Puma 110" SW ............................................................. Earth first. Other planets later |
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26th Apr 2009 2:44am |
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| albuquerque Member Since: 20 Jul 2009 Location: portugal Posts: 2 |
In this tragic accident, the only ones with light injuries were the driver and co-driver, wearing seatbelts. |
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20th Jul 2009 2:05pm |
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| NoDo$h Member Since: 18 Aug 2007 Location: Buried in deer guts in Dorset Posts: 972 
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Interesting point made about multiple impact accidents - all the ncap tests are based on mitigating a single impact. Once the car has played all its cards by deploying airbags and crumpling, any subsequent impacts are going to be pretty horrendous. As cars are now engineered to meet these limited criteria tests, could it be argued that the tests have in some respects led us down an engineering blind alley?
Re. rolling Defenders. Truck Cab 90s may be a bloody tight fit, but the presence of a substantial B-Pillar makes it a much happier place to be when rolling  
54 Freelander modded for mud 2008 D3 SE 2010 90 XS SW 1978 88 Series 3 undergoing surgery with a new owner 2007 90 County Truck Cab - gone 2006 D3 SE - gone 2004 Freelander Sport - gay 1999 Disco V8 ES rotted to bits |
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20th Jul 2009 4:15pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471  
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I understood the reason Defenders haven't been imported into the US of A for a number of years is due to the lack of airbags. The reason why it has not been possible to fit them is due to to the inherent structural weakness of the front bulkhead and steering column assembly. The vehicle bodyshell is not computer designed monocoque, the basic bulkhead design including it's attachment points etc is decades old.
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23rd Jul 2009 4:16pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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Same as Mercedes G....... If LR want can install the airbag......... |
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23rd Jul 2009 5:03pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4660 
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What about the airbag in the passenger seat?
 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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24th Jul 2009 3:11pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4660
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What about the airbag in the passenger seat?
1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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24th Jul 2009 3:12pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4660
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What about the airbag in the passenger seat?
 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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24th Jul 2009 3:12pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4660
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Sorry about the triplication there!! 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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24th Jul 2009 3:14pm |
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| Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Región Metropolitana Posts: 2110 
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So, 3 airbags in the passenger seat looks like a luxury car
I hope the LR engineers were thinking in put at least one airbag in the new Defender. Cheers Eduardo MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64' MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo" Click image to enlarge |
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24th Jul 2009 3:25pm |
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| Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Región Metropolitana Posts: 2110
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 Houston, we have a problem!!!
A fatal error appears when we write a post and try tu submit it Martin Eduardo MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64' MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo" Click image to enlarge |
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24th Jul 2009 3:25pm |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039  
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Here some pictures off a 300 TDI 90 that hit a tree head on.
The woman driving the 90 wanted to pick up something that fell off the chair and while doing that she steared a little to the right and hit a tree. She was doing about 80 km/hr. She is lucky to be alive as if she had been sitting upright I am not sure she would have survived as there is just enough space to sit between the steering wheel and the seat.
Look at the rear door it is completely damaged just by the force off the spare wheel. Roel 1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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30th Aug 2009 6:08pm |
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| willy eckerslike Member Since: 15 Jun 2009 Location: North yorks Posts: 1789 
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 That is some impact Roel, wonder what a standard saloon would have looked like Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
110 HCPU Tipper |
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31st Aug 2009 8:00am |
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