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Clemmo

Member Since: 03 Aug 2012
Location: Mile Oak
Posts: 1217

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey

1 Year Old..InControl Subscription

So my Defender is approaching 1 yr old.
Had an email from LR

"We want to make you aware of some important services which you will no longer have access to once your InControl subscription expires:

If you choose not to renew, upon expiry the InControl Services will be automatically removed from your vehicle. Please note that the automatic activation or removal of InControl Services from the vehicle may not take place immediately if your vehicle does not have sufficient mobile network coverage."

When I follow the link provided they are asking for £240 for another years Tracking Subscription.

What I cant work out is if I chose not to take it what else they may take way?

Anyone been there done it?..
or not done it?

Cheers Clemmo

Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow....
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2nd Jan 2024 2:31pm

Siwynne

Member Since: 04 Nov 2016
Location: West lancs
Posts: 578

You normally get a call from in control call centre in the middle of the night about two weeks before it’s due saying your vehicle has been detected moving and it’s unusual. This has happened twice to me having heard nothing for nearly twelve months. I felt it was to remind me in control was in place

2nd Jan 2024 7:35pm

WizzardPrang

Member Since: 05 Nov 2020
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 153

You can buy just the LR Remote Subscription which gives you everything except the secure tracker and Guardian Mode, for about £40 p/a. Current vehicle: 2020 Defender 110S
Gone: Defender 90 HT 200Tdi, Discovery Sport, Freelander 2

Insta: wizzardprang

2nd Jan 2024 10:11pm

Retroanaconda

Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2638

Yes that’s exactly what I’ve done. The tracker doesn’t add much value in my opinion.

2nd Jan 2024 10:26pm

Defendit..

Member Since: 09 Aug 2020
Location: 's-Hertogenbosch
Posts: 421

Often insurance demands a tracker...
Or do you want to build in something else they approve ? No Mud flaps for my 90.!
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P300 S MY21 on air, adv.+ offroad pack, DRL+fog, Dinamica Suedecloth + Ebony headliner/Cross Beam- Many Mods..

2nd Jan 2024 11:22pm

Retroanaconda

Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2638

Only over a certain value I believe, mine is a lowly base model and so I have never needed it.

3rd Jan 2024 9:42am

Clemmo

Member Since: 03 Aug 2012
Location: Mile Oak
Posts: 1217

Hi Retroanaconda..

what I really want to know is when I don't renew my Incontrol Tracker subs does everything else stay the same?

Ie...
can I use the Ap to check the car?
Will I still get "forgot to lock" notification?

and others...

Clemmo

3rd Jan 2024 10:44am

Retroanaconda

Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2638

Yes. My secure tracker subscription lapsed afger the first year and I never renewed it.

The normal incontrol remote pack lapsed after three years and I just renewed that for £40 off as above - it’s that which gives you the remote start/journey recording/locking etc.

3rd Jan 2024 11:09am

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2735

l checked after 12 months and it appears the same, have a three year subscription included with my base specification 90 Commercial

I don't know if l have the tracker, which seems to be a separate contract, how would l find that out? lf so l'll renew it.

But surely for the lnControl app to work it needs to know where the vehicle is. Or it wouldn't be able to record your journeys.

3rd Jan 2024 1:20pm

C&M

Member Since: 28 Aug 2020
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 185

Simon from Powerful UK did a review on the tracker some time ago.

he concluded that the tracker offered was not worth the money. He had contacted the 3rd party company who LR contract out to in order to establish how many vehicles they had found. They would not tell him.

that, along with the built in SIM telling you where the car is for journeys he concluded that £40 was worth it for remote heating/cooling control and journey tracking and knowing where your car is.

with this in mind I never took the tracker package.

The LR Remote App is worth £40 IMO Defender D250 HSE
Dender 110 XS - sadly gone
VW Polo
VW Caravelle - Gen 6

3rd Jan 2024 2:45pm

Retroanaconda

Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2638

The car always knows where it is, the built in SIM and uplink to LR’s servers ensure that. When you buy the normal £40-ish remote package you’re just paying for the app to link into that data/service - it’s entirely separate from the secure tracker, which is an actively monitored tracking solution.

Basically, if your alarm goes off in the middle of the night and you just have the basic remote pack you’ll just get a notification on your phone. If you have the full tracker package then they’ll phone you and track the vehicle for the police etc.

3rd Jan 2024 4:12pm

WizzardPrang

Member Since: 05 Nov 2020
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 153

When my Secure Tracker was up for renewal, I asked my insurer (NFU) if it was a requirement of my policy, they said No. Furthermore, having the JLR tracker wouldn't reduce my premium as, despite being a Thatcham approved device, it was installed "as standard" by JLR during vehicle manufacture.

So I just went with the basic Remote which does keep track of where your vehicle is, records journeys and can remind you to lock the doors, etc. Current vehicle: 2020 Defender 110S
Gone: Defender 90 HT 200Tdi, Discovery Sport, Freelander 2

Insta: wizzardprang

3rd Jan 2024 9:53pm

WizzardPrang

Member Since: 05 Nov 2020
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 153

lightning wrote:

I don't know if l have the tracker, which seems to be a separate contract, how would l find that out

Under the Security tab on your Remote App, the tracker will show up below the section telling you whether the vehicle is locked, windows open, etc. HTH Current vehicle: 2020 Defender 110S
Gone: Defender 90 HT 200Tdi, Discovery Sport, Freelander 2

Insta: wizzardprang

3rd Jan 2024 9:57pm

Moo

Member Since: 01 Oct 2021
Location: UK
Posts: 1352

Bo11ox! Just renewed mine

Wish I'd looked into this more now. Next year will just buy the Remote bit.

Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.

3rd Jan 2024 10:30pm

Clemmo

Member Since: 03 Aug 2012
Location: Mile Oak
Posts: 1217

Moo
no need to spend next year.
The car comes with 3 years remote Subs.
After that its £40/annum

4th Jan 2024 3:44pm

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