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8619simon



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Wales 1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green
@j12engineering….. How did you fix the awning without roof bars? Also any feedback on the Drivelodge in bad weather, high winds and rain?

Thanks
Post #1011316 15th Oct 2023 3:54pm
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
I’ve been meaning to ask the same question re: awning. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #1011326 15th Oct 2023 5:49pm
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J12Engineering



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8619simon wrote:
@j12engineering….. How did you fix the awning without roof bars? Also any feedback on the Drivelodge in bad weather, high winds and rain?

Thanks


Quite simple really - a little J12Engineering….

I had contacted a known roof rack manufacturer and asked them to make one without the centre bars. All agreed, but it didn’t materialise, sadly. Time was running out before departure, so I simply fabricate 3x P-brackets that matched to roof contour - the front one is smaller to accommodate the tapering roof.

The gutter mount is of standard style to most roof racks, albeit I need to reduce the tube diameter, hence the washer to stop the bolt canting over. Then 2xM8 bolts through the roof skin with a reinforcing spreader plate inside, and sealant under the bracket to ensure it’s water tight.

Modification #1 will be to square them off to remove the triangular top, but that element aided the original manufacture. And as mentioned above reduce the foot bolt tube diameter.



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As for the Drivelodge poptop tent, it performed perfectly. We had one windy night and another where we were camping in the clouds, due to altitude, and a thunderstorm broke. That makes for a very loud night where you have no chance of sleeping, but the rain kept out of the tent.

Overall I’m very impressed with the Drivelodge roof, and it’s a great price. There are a few elements I am going to modify though, but more to come on that once done.
Post #1011336 15th Oct 2023 7:31pm
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8619simon



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Thanks for that, a really neat solution. Good to hear of your experiences and looking forward to the modifications 👍.

A pop top is next on the list for my 110 and I’m quite liking the Drivelodge option at the moment. [/quote]
Post #1011500 16th Oct 2023 10:09pm
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Ianb



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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi HT Alaska White
Really enjoyed reading this thread so far (not even halfway through!)
A quick question for you pop toppers... is there anything to stop some lunatic grabbing the outside and pulling it down whilst you're comfortably snoozing away? (other than the threat of a permanent Ctrl+alt+del once you escape?)
Post #1013241 30th Oct 2023 6:23pm
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macfrank



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Extec have internal struts to avoid a collapse of the roof. I don't know if it's an issue in practice. To pull the roof down from the outside you'd have to climb up (to) the rear. It needs some force to pull it down from a fully open position (at least it should - depends on the weight you have on the roof and the force of the gas struts). I'd rather not sleep where such a situation could arise Cool
Post #1013573 1st Nov 2023 6:37pm
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white Landy



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I fitted an airline rail to fit the awning and the shower. It’s from the end to the alpine windows. At the front it’s fitted to the rollcage.
The rail is supported by 5 mm alloy stripes inside the roof, six screws and glued as well. The hinges are homemade. So it’s easy to took the awning away in winter time.


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BR Thomas
Post #1013928 4th Nov 2023 5:42pm
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8619simon



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Thumbs Up That looks a neat solution. How does the Poptop work inside with your roll cage, do you have the internal loop as well or is it just external?
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white Landy



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I have only the front and the internal rollbar.


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The internal one end with the hole in the roof.
Post #1013962 4th Nov 2023 9:50pm
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8619simon



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Perfect 👍 thank you. There’s not many pop top options that allow some form of roll cage too.
Post #1013972 5th Nov 2023 12:34am
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wyvern



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X-Vison-X also has a roll cage that can be fitted with a pop top .... Thumbs Up

https://x-vision-x.com/en/products/uberrollbugel

and they also have awning brackets to mount with a pop top as well - I have these on my 110 and they are really robust.

https://x-vision-x.com/en/products/markisenhalter Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold
Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126
Post #1013974 5th Nov 2023 7:21am
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8619simon



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Thanks Gary. Good to know, I had not seen this option before, options options options…. My comparison spreadsheets is getting longer by the day 🙄🤣.

For someone looking into this development for their defender, this thread is proving to be so helpful, thank you all 🙏.

Simon
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macfrank



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A while ago I started a thread on pop-top compatible roll cages. No one noticed Confused
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic84768.html


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Post #1013980 5th Nov 2023 8:10am
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wyvern



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^^^ I did ! Smile
Rolling with laughter Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold
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