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L110CDL



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[Wanted] 110 rear axle.
Hi

I'm hoping that someone in this community can help me as i'm looking for a late TD5 or 110 puma rear axle in serviceable condition.

Q. Will i need a different propshaft or will the one on Millie fit ?

As i like driving i can come and pick the axle up, so no worries there Very Happy

Thanks for looking Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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Post #1004407 16th Aug 2023 7:13pm
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jimbo55



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Can’t help on finding an axle, but 99% sure you’ll need a new prop as the nose of the diff is longer on a salisbury. But, assuming you have a 300tdi with an r380, a late td5 prop should be pretty easily available 👍
Post #1004409 16th Aug 2023 7:18pm
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L110CDL



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Many thanks jimbo55 Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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Post #1004422 16th Aug 2023 8:12pm
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Good excuse to fit a Gywn Lewis propshaft.
Post #1004424 16th Aug 2023 8:22pm
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L110CDL



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Thanks for that info, i will have a look Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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Post #1004426 16th Aug 2023 8:34pm
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Why out of interest? The puma axles are soft compared to the Salisbury I think.
Post #1004433 16th Aug 2023 9:11pm
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L110CDL



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Long story short . . .

It has come to light that Millie's sailsbury axle is not an original one as i thought it was, it seems to be an old sailsbury drum axle converted to disc before my ownership, so i can't put the upgrades on the rear axle, so that's why i'm looking for the above Very Happy 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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Post #1004439 16th Aug 2023 9:42pm
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Shroppy



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IIRC, some of the early disc salisbury axles were 'converted' at the factory using genuine calliper brackets etc. What upgrades were you hoping to fit?

I have gone down the P38/Wolf type axle route due to better availability of diff upgrades, the downside is that that ring/pinion design is weaker than the Salisbury unless upgraded. 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
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Post #1004464 17th Aug 2023 8:33am
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L110CDL



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That is another route to go down with the P38 axle, i have been following Geobloke's thread on the P38 diff Very Happy
Is the P38 axle a straight swap for my sailsbury axle ?

The reason for changing the rear axle is that a while back i thought it was time to renew/upgrade her braking system which is all original with the 400 odd thousand miles they have done, so i bought from LOF, powerspec front and rear brake kits with new disc's and AP calipers with SS pistons. The front went on without a hitch but no matter what, my indy could not get the rear's to fit so after some phone calls to Luke it came to light that Millie's rear axle is not a genuine sailsbury axle. I did contact Luke to make 100% sure that the kit would fit which he said 100% yes. So i have a rear powerspec kit waiting to be installed. 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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Post #1004524 17th Aug 2023 6:32pm
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The defender "P38" Td5/Puma axle is indeed a straight swap (but the rangerover P38 axle won't fit in)

I did the same to my 110 a few years back; salisbury out and Td5/puma type in. As has been mentioned the propshaft needs changing. it's approximately 1 3/4" longer for the P38 diff.

With regards to the disc braked salisbury you mentioned, it was a bolt on setup for the later 300Tdi's (the caliper bracket bolted onto the stub axle fixings). Later salisburys (not sure of they were late Tdi's or early Td5's) the caliper brackets were cast into the axle tubes.

But it makes it easy to convert a drum axle to disc. I did a write up on LR4x4 some years back on making spacers and using 10 calipers to convert a drum braked axle into discs, but I would imagine now all the proper parts could be bought used for a cheap enough amount not to have to faff about making bits.
edit: here it is: https://forums.lr4x4.com/topic/11685-drum-...onversion/
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NickMc wrote:
Why out of interest? The puma axles are soft compared to the Salisbury I think.


That is a matter of internet opinion I fear, along the same lines as the 300tdi is a better engine than the TD5 because it doesn't have an ECU. The evidence in the P38 thread on this forum does not backup the conjecture that the P38 is soft at all, in fact the opposite is likely a truer statement. It is also true that the P38 axle/diff is a much much easier combination to maintain than the Salisbury axle/diff, especially for the DIY mechanic and you gain a not insignificant amount of ground clearance under the diff as well.

As I have said before, Miffy's P38 axle/diff (the first fitted to the 110) has covered 1/4 million miles of trouble free motoring (unlike the front rover diff) and to put it bluntly she does not spend all of her time on tarmac, far from it.

I absolutely trust the P38 axle. Thumbs Up
Post #1004600 18th Aug 2023 11:30am
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Thank you diesel_jim Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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Post #1004673 18th Aug 2023 7:29pm
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I'm still looking for one Whistle 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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Post #1006831 7th Sep 2023 7:55pm
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Bump Thumbs Up 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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Post #1011718 18th Oct 2023 9:10pm
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Still looking Very Happy 1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.

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