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22900013A

Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 3150

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green

More DC100 bashing...

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/11/land-...-defender/

Again, overwhelmingly negative commentary, and I don't believe for a second these people are all "old-fashioned farmers or mud-pluggers". Landrover you are on the wrong track, time has come to admit it. Oh and note that McGovern is quoted as saying this thing WILL go into production.

I also saw a photo of what looked like an in-the-metal lwb version, but can't find a source for it. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"

17th Nov 2011 10:41am

lrmaniac

Member Since: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Lisboa
Posts: 762

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Keswick Green

I was going to post this ...

“The reality is we are going to put it into production,” Land Rover lead designer, Gerry McGovern, told The Los Angeles Times. “We have to.”

Regards
Joao

'10 Land Rover Defender 110 CC
'08 BMW F800GS
'64 SIIA Forward Control
'69 SIIA 109 ZA CKD
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You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.

17th Nov 2011 11:37am

The Boy

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: East Northants
Posts: 1459

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red

Oh dear the battle is lost before it has begun by the sounds of it.

Think it is jsut going to be made to apeal to people who think the Beckhams are English royality

I don't think it looks horrible or anything but it need to be practical and a work vehicle not a posser truck with all looks and not ground clearance.

Land Rover has been telling us since 1999 that they have to get this right first time. Well FAIL!

17th Nov 2011 12:03pm

22900013A

Member Since: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 3150

lrmaniac wrote:
I was going to post this ...

“The reality is we are going to put it into production,” Land Rover lead designer, Gerry McGovern, told The Los Angeles Times. “We have to.”

I can see my 110 weeping a little tear from its headlamp right now...

2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"

17th Nov 2011 12:07pm

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2660

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

this is where they got their inspiration for the design:

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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged

Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ

17th Nov 2011 1:09pm

The Boy

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: East Northants
Posts: 1459

But Wall-E was useful

17th Nov 2011 1:12pm

MrFlips

Member Since: 27 May 2009
Location: Cardiff
Posts: 682

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 PU Santorini Black

The article concludes nicely:

Quote:
It’s all very cool. It’s all very modern. And it’s so unfortunate that it’s all contained within a vehicle that looks like the Honda Element, when Landie could have just as easily packed it all into, well, the Defender.

Exactly my thoughts. Peter
2008 SWB Truck Cab
1952 80" Soft top

17th Nov 2011 1:48pm

warren

Member Since: 14 Oct 2009
Location: East Lancs.
Posts: 903

2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Santorini Black

The last time I was talking to a farmer he said the one thing he needed in his Defender was an 8 speed automatic gearbox and underwater terrain spotter

It's actually depressing when you see pictures like this...

...and you know that even though it never will (unless your AndrewS

) your Defender could do that, I just can't see the DC100 doing the same.

17th Nov 2011 7:24pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4742

I am very friendly with the owner of a garage that sells Oriental 4x4s, he is a maindealer. Each year I bring turf home in a trailer from the bog with the Defender. He pays someone with a tractor and trailer to get his out. I asked him why and he replied "It's a bit rough in there" Enough said. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

17th Nov 2011 11:12pm

mikelike

Member Since: 31 Aug 2011
Location: new zealand
Posts: 108

yip land rover is going to build this for the hair dresser market , fantastic !!!! LAND ROVER has never listened to any one and still doesnt , i smell fail too !!!

18th Nov 2011 7:46pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2951

Fortunately the design was updated somewhat for production.

Although the arguments about whether or not it's a "Defender" still persist four years after the 2020 launch.

23rd Nov 2024 2:27pm

Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
Posts: 5878

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey

No arugements. It's not a Defender, it's a Disco 6. Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

28th Nov 2024 2:38pm

Moo

Member Since: 01 Oct 2021
Location: UK
Posts: 1444

I don't get why people think the Defender is a Discovery replacement. It isn't in any shape or form.

I've just sold my Defender to go back to a D4, my fifth. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.

28th Nov 2024 2:56pm

LR Nuts

Member Since: 10 Aug 2022
Location: UK
Posts: 1217

I think t is because public wanted a Disco 5 and din't like what it offered, hence why LR are deleting it next year..

now the New Defender is what the old Disco 4 people want now.

I agree with your limitations on the rear and load space, my old FL2, which I still have, is better that my current New Defender 110.

28th Nov 2024 3:31pm

90 Dreamer

Member Since: 13 Jul 2019
Location: Oop North
Posts: 2188

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

Disco 4 or 5 is a far nicer place to be.......supposed to be a Disco6 next year??

28th Nov 2024 3:38pm

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