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| Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1017   
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 Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
Puma 90 XS - Sold D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold) Freelander 2 HSE - Sold Freelander 1 - Sold Disco 2 - Sold |
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21st Jul 2023 2:56pm |
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| ickle Member Since: 22 Jul 2010 Location: South Vendee Posts: 1780  
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It can't be, those are Euros and it would be Sterling or offshore able Dollars! |
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21st Jul 2023 2:59pm |
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| Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1017
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 Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
Puma 90 XS - Sold D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold) Freelander 2 HSE - Sold Freelander 1 - Sold Disco 2 - Sold |
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21st Jul 2023 3:04pm |
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| LRSpain004 Member Since: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Elche Posts: 68 
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I live in Spain and its a joke here also. 80% of people in Spain live vertically (apartments) and there is no thought about how people are going to charge at home.. Most places do not even have underground parking and if they did who is going to pay for the infrastructure to be installed. It's all a bit moot really, as Spain is a poor country and most people cannot afford a new car (even at 0% interest) let alone a BEV at 8%.......the dates will have to move unless there is a technology breakthrough that changes the finance/charging issues.
 The government will need to revisit the deadline anyway - Europe has now moved to 2035 and agreed to include synthetic fuels in the green strategy.
UK is kidding itself that we will have the charging infrastructure, including the ability to generate enough electric for the chargers by 2030, so deadline will have to move - they just don't have the guts to admit it yet. Hopefully by then common sense will prevail and we start seriously considering other technologies, including hydrogen and alternative fuels.[/quote] |
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22nd Jul 2023 8:08am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4206 
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The date banning new sales of ICE is definitely going to go back in my opinion. charging infrastructure isn't coming quick enough, BEV price and availability is not coming along fast enough. BEV sales growth has stalled in some markets.
I don't think any of that's because BEVs are no good, it's just they don't work well either financially or practically for a lot of people. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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22nd Jul 2023 9:40am |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1579 
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LandRovers engine plant in Wolverhampton was heavily subsidised from various outlets.
Seems to create a substantial employment opportunity regardless of the product. Not sure many moaned about that at the time. |
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22nd Jul 2023 9:42pm |
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| XplusYplusZ Member Since: 16 Aug 2021 Location: UK Posts: 484 |
I'm curious to see where they're going to find space for all these chargers...
One ICE pump can fill a tank in 5 mins = 12 cars an hour per pump. One "Rapid" charger @45 mins to 80% = 1.25 EVs an hour per charger. So an average 8 pump station needs 8 car spaces and can process 96 cars an hour. An EV station with enough capacity for 96 cars per hour = 77 car spaces.. But then remembering EV range is approx half that of a regular car, you need to fill it twice as often = 154 car spaces to serve the same population as a busy little texaco on the corner... It's the equivalent of 19 charger spaces for every 1 ICE pump.
There is of course the caveat that 2/3rds of Brits have a driveway. If we assume they all charge every day and never go further than 300 miles a day. AND we ignore the fact that 1 in 10 chargers are dont work. Then we can reduce the requirement to just 6x the amount of space at each petrol station, required for chargers. Your 8 space forecourt will need to be a 48 space charging carpark. PS. Where are they going to get 9000 people from in Somerset!!?? |
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24th Jul 2023 3:26pm |
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