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lightning



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Fitting rear speakers in a Commercial
Has this been covered before?

lf you fit the bulkhead replacement kit to a 110 Commercial (soon to be available for the 90) then it uncovers the rear speaker grilles.

There's obviously no speakers fitted, but l wondered if it would be possible to fit them. The big issue would be, is the wiring in place or not.

If it's not in place then it's probably too much trouble to fit the speakers. But l can't see a different loom being made just for rear speakers delete.

Our Jimny (and my old Defender) didn't have rear speakers but on both vehicles the wiring was in place.
Post #1001181 21st Jul 2023 11:10pm
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Paladino



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I will try to fit the rear speakers in the next period. There is no wiring in the door, new wiring is needed. You will need it anyway if you want to activate rear windows.
The problem is that it looks like that there is no wiring from the headunit under the seat to the door connector, I will try to find the pinout and and add cables.

What I don't know is if the rear channels are disabled and need coding.
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Assuming you drive the 90 commercial.
You have to check if the speaker brackets are mounted behind the speaker grille.
Cables to the amplifier in the rear can be easy made.

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Post #1001191 22nd Jul 2023 7:36am
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Paladino



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It looks like the wires from the speakers go to the aam located in the rear of the vehicle. New pins from lr would be needed for making new cables. Currently we have only positive two negatives, can hi low and two small wires


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Post #1001192 22nd Jul 2023 7:41am
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Paladino



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It looks like the two small wires are speaker wires. Green and yellow brown for the rear left door.

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Post #1001193 22nd Jul 2023 7:46am
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lightning



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There's an opportunity for someone like Powerful U.K. to start producing a wiring harness and speaker mounting kit

Rear speakers make quite a difference even if they're not that good.


lf the module is in the rear of the vehicle at least it won't be too difficult to route the wires if necessary.
Post #1001207 22nd Jul 2023 9:27am
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Re: Fitting rear speakers in a Commercial
lightning wrote:
Has this been covered before?

lf you fit the bulkhead replacement kit to a 110 Commercial (soon to be available for the 90) then it uncovers the rear speaker grilles.

There's obviously no speakers fitted, but l wondered if it would be possible to fit them. The big issue would be, is the wiring in place or not.

If it's not in place then it's probably too much trouble to fit the speakers. But l can't see a different loom being made just for rear speakers delete.

Our Jimny (and my old Defender) didn't have rear speakers but on both vehicles the wiring was in place.


I can't see anywhere for the speakers to be fitted in my commercial 110. The rear door cards are completely different to a station wagon.
Would it need the CCF sorting to let the car know the speakers are there? So you could sort the balance of the speakers in the pivi system? 110 D250 SE HT
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lightning



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My 90 still has the speaker grilles in the rear. On the media screen the audio control still shows rear speakers and you can use the front/rear fader but of course it makes no difference to the sound.
Post #1001725 25th Jul 2023 2:15pm
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Paladino



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I found out that there are no cables installed from the amplifier to the rear doors. There are only 4 wires going to the front two doors. I assume that there is a crossover somewhere between the door speaker and the tweeter.
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