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Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: UK Posts: 1367 |
I don't think so. My Defender has had a few niggles but nothing major.
What still lets LR down though is the poor dealer service! Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy. |
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14th Jul 2023 3:02pm |
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lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2759 |
No issues with my D250 apart from a recall to change the airbox because it was rubbing on the radiator top hose.
The vehicle seems well made and inspires confidence. |
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14th Jul 2023 6:27pm |
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Badeagle Member Since: 27 Aug 2022 Location: London Posts: 54 |
Had my D250 110 XS for nine months now
Only warning light I’ve had was to top up windscreen washer fluid MY23 XS 110 D250 2003 Jeep Cherokee Limited |
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14th Jul 2023 7:24pm |
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Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2642 |
No issues in 64k miles and 2.5 years here. A few minor trim/seal repairs and the hose recall mentioned above but nothing proper.
There have been a few engine failures in the early 2.0 litre diesels reported on the Facebook groups but I haven’t seen any other patterns of concern. |
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14th Jul 2023 7:46pm |
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Mr Fox Member Since: 10 Sep 2011 Location: green & pleasant land Posts: 1037 |
Cannot speak for myself but have two non forum member friends, between them they have a new Defender each one 110 and one 90, as well as three 90 HT company cars - so five in total. Went out for lunch with them recently and off the back of Walfy’s post, asked them what their experience had been - upshot was no issues and two of the 90s in particular have wracked up far above average miles over 2 years.
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14th Jul 2023 8:15pm |
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Hairy Dan Member Since: 25 Apr 2013 Location: NW Durham Posts: 1415 |
I think mine is one of the best Land Rovers I've had and I've had them for the last 40 years Cheers Ian -------------------- 22MY Defender 110 D200 SE, Fuji White. Kielder 4x4 Safari Instagram @defender_v8 |
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14th Jul 2023 10:31pm |
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Clemmo Member Since: 03 Aug 2012 Location: Mile Oak Posts: 1217 |
I’ve driven Land Rovers and BMWs side by side for 30 years.
My Defender is definitely up there as the best I’ve driven…too early to comment on reliability but does feel good quality. As stated above it’s just a shame the Dealers are generally beyond poor. We have decided this will be our last Land Rover product based on this. Clemmo Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow.... Defender 90 HT............Pangea Green BMW X3 Msport............Carbon Black Mini Electric................Grey. (wow!) MGB Roadster……..........Vermillion 17k miles Honda Benly CD200....Maroon --------McLouis Fusio........7.4m of fun |
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15th Jul 2023 5:46am |
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martinf Member Since: 30 Nov 2020 Location: Sussex Posts: 99 |
I am very happy with my 110 P300. No issues in nearly 2 years and 14000 miles
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15th Jul 2023 6:25am |
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Garthlands Member Since: 01 Dec 2021 Location: Cheshire Posts: 25 |
Had mine 18 months, done 18k miles, absolutely faultless! Had new Landrover’s, Discoveries and Range Rovers for last 35 years, this is the best quality and reliability I’ve had in that time!
OMG, I hope this statement hasn’t just jinxed the whole thing!!🙄 |
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15th Jul 2023 7:03am |
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lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2759 |
Car dealers have been a mixed bag for years.
l had three Alfa Romeo's back in the late 1990's and early 2000's Not the most reliable of vehicles, but great fun. The dealers were Reg "rip off" Vardy and DC Crook, sorry Cook Both dealers were beyond hopeless, and Vardy in particular were totally incompetent to the highest degree. We had a better experience with lnchcape (formerly Smith Knight Fay) VW We had about five cars off them over the years. At least VW were competent, and friendly on the surface at least. But the service department was hassled and made promises they couldn't keep. Fortunately we rarely needed to call on the warranty but when we did, repairs were done well, with no damage to the vehicle such as scratches etc The Ford dealer l used was okay, but they were very expensive for routine work on a Transit Connect van. But they seemed competent and well organised. Porsche really made me feel special, while simultaneously emptying my wallet. But the service was exemplary. Dealers can make or break the reputation of a vehicle brand. |
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15th Jul 2023 9:03am |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 |
My first one was an early build D240 110 First Edition built in Feb 2020 with the much derided I4 4 cylinder diesel. It had a lot of visits to the workshop under warranty for silly things like rattles and leaks. Mechanically it was 100% reliable although I had an oil and filter change done after 12 months / 11000 miles before the required 2 years/ 21000 miles service. I would recommend the engine to anyone but with the caveat that they checked its service history very carefully.
Since March I’ve owned a D250 90 and it’s only visit to a dealer in the nearly 4 months and 3500 miles I’ve driven it has been to collect a set of roof cross bars - it has no rattles, squeaks or leaks and has had the wearing pipe on the air filter issue carried out in the production line. Mechanically it’s been fine. I’ll still be getting an intermediate oil and filter change at 12 months midway between official services even though mine doesn’t get particularly heavy use on road it does a fair bit of off-road driving in low ratio. I’ve owned 14 previous Land Rover products since 1996 - I’ve had two cases of unreliability in that time - the auxiliary belt on a TD5 Disco5 failed (a well known issue with the earlynones) as I was driving it to the dealership to collect my new TD4 Freelander……… The 2nd one was a 2014 Evoque 9 speed auto that had a gearbox ECU software update carried out by the dealers at 9 months old and from that day until LR bought it back it was burning up a DPF sensor every 3-4 weeks. LR had no idea why it was doing it but shortly after they stopped applying the software update until they got ZF to fix the problem. I owned a 1996 TDi300 90 from 2001 to 2022 - a corroded chassis at 12 years old was the only issue I had with that. I did bend a steering rod off-road and ran it for 100 miles without no oil in the transfer case but I consider those to be problems created by me and not due to any failings by LR. All the rest of the Discos, Freelander, 3 x RRS, 2 x L322 FFRR’s and the 2010 6 speed auto 2.2 Evoque Coupe were boringly reliable, like both new Defenders. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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15th Jul 2023 12:40pm |
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spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4655 |
"boringly reliable, ", that would make a great sales pitch. "Land Rover...boringly reliable!" 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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16th Jul 2023 4:45pm |
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Nicofender Member Since: 16 Jan 2023 Location: Southern Posts: 51 |
Have a D200. Works like a charme. I‘m in Hirtshals right now taking the ferry tomorrow to Iceland for 6 weeks. Heavy dirt roads and harder offroading will be done. I report back after it.
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17th Jul 2023 1:57pm |
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silent_fury Member Since: 28 Aug 2022 Location: Romania Posts: 23 |
My story: 5 Aug 2023
L663 D300, MY 23.5, 13000km on board. 50 km from Thessaloniki, engine warning light, car is trembling, not have possibility to do more than the 100 km/h. (limp mode) I was heading to vacancy, packed up & everything and 1 years old child. The result: injector nr. 2 electrical failure. Now (12.09.2023) is in back order parts at dealer with no horizont of delivery. The dealer gave me a Jaguar F Pace as a replacement car. I love defender, but…never again. |
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12th Sep 2023 10:06am |
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