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Printerjohn



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Engine hot, radiator cold?
After returning from France where we had overheating issues, and a garage said your engine is hot, but radiator is cold due to the thermostat sticking closed, and as they didn't have the correct thermostat the mechanic wedged the thermostat open, and we travelled home engine temperature with this done maxed out around 65 degrees C. I have this afternoon replaced the thermostat and top radiator hose with genuine Land Rover parts. The engine is now running between 80 and 100 degrees C, and the radiator is still cold except for the very top corner where the hose comes from the head. The pipe at the bottom of the thermostat is cold, and I can see the pink coolant in the bottom of the thermostat body. Any suggestions as to what is wrong to cause the thermostat not to open.
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landy andy



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Are you sure you have an issue?

The engine will want to run at 80-100c, and if your temps are like here today getting the engine really hot is going to take some work. When it was running 65c it was running too cold.
Post #1052324 20th Nov 2024 6:06pm
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Printerjohn



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Should the thermostat not be opening at 89 degrees to allow the water to circulate through the radiator? There's upto 100 degrees at the top of the thermostat with top hoses all hot, but cold on the other side of the thermostat.
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landy andy



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Yes it should open at 89, but it’s not going to take much for it to drop 10 degrees from the 100.

Where are you getting your temperatures from?

I’m not saying you have no problem, just that it probably needs a good run and test. Today here things barely got above 0 c, so doubt my radiator was doing anything.

Only other things I can think of is air lock, weak water pump, or blocked radiator. Possibly the air lock, but the others I think would show other symptoms.
Post #1052339 20th Nov 2024 8:12pm
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Printerjohn



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Temperature is coolant temperature readings on Nanocom. I will try a longer run tomorrow. The coolant looked nice and clean. Would the coolant be clean if there are blockages in the radiator?
Post #1052342 20th Nov 2024 8:26pm
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landy andy



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So your temperature is taken from the cylinder head and at a max of 100c. The thermostat is a distance away and mounted in a pipe which is being effected by windchill. At the thermostat opens at 90c. So it only had to loose 10c during a cold day ????

I think the rest of your system is ok as was so different when thermostat stuck open

I’m just thinking it through with you, not that I know anything.
Post #1052352 20th Nov 2024 8:52pm
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Printerjohn



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Thanks, see what your saying, it should be warmer here in Dorset at the weekend (15 degrees) so will see how it goes then with a decent run.
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landy andy



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I think a decent is best. They really don’t run hot, even after a good run the temps soon plummet once stationary. And it’s very rare that the fan kicks in. I just think that you can start to over study something once you’ve had a problem with it. I’m sure if it was a most people they would have taken it to a garage, had a new thermostat fitted, then been given the vehicle back, and never given it a second thought. Sometimes being a hands on LR owner can cause us anxiety.
Post #1052358 20th Nov 2024 9:19pm
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