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| ralton Member Since: 04 Feb 2010 Location: Durban Posts: 153   
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yes there were/are some faults. there were also faults when i bought my new toyota hilux. the biggest issue i've had was the clutch, which was incorrectly replaced with the same old spec version. now that that is fixed all is well - 78 000km.
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21st Jun 2010 4:53am |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015  
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I drive 300 TDi on a daily basis with work and even though they are an awesome workhorse, after a few weeks away and I get into my TDCi I feel like I have just sat in heaven!!
Take all the 'problems' with a pinch of salt......people who have a issue will take about 2 seconds to complain about it......... the majority of owners on this forum are more than happy with their vehicles even if they don't post it on weekly basis. ^^As above.... all vehicles from all manufacturers have their 'problems' A VERY VERY happy TDCi owner (other than the fact I am going to miss her loads over the next 3 months) Glyn  |
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21st Jun 2010 5:30am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2637 
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I just did 4000km in my Puma 90 on a 9-day holiday, somewhat overloaded and over very rough corrugated gravel roads. and in the morning in -5C conditions.
Guess what went wrong? Nothing! I got back, not a dingle drop of oil was required, no coolant top-up, nada!  |
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21st Jun 2010 7:36am |
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| alantd Member Since: 14 Dec 2008 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 1513  
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They do have faults - probably more than most - but they're fairly basic and rugged so it doesn't matter too much.
You can also argue that they're slow, noisy and unrefined but, again, your expectations are managed by their agricultural nature. Forums like this are full of people reporting problems - in fact, many people seek out a forum to start with because they have a problem and want an answer. It gives you a skewed view of the issues. There are plenty of great examples out there that have never had any issues. If you're patient, then with the 3yr warranty you can get pretty much everything resolved. You'll never get the fit and finish to the same standard as a production line car. You'll never completely seal them from water or dust. You'll never stop finding idiotic/sloppy workmanship. However, you'll never stop smiling when you drive it. You'll never ceased to be amazed at how versatile it is. You'll never stop tinkering and adding bits to it. The acid test: There are well over a thousand people on this forum alone. There are a handful who have gotten fed up and left. There are more who have come back. The VAST MAJORITY of us groan or grumble but wouldn't swap the Defender for anything else and love owning one  One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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21st Jun 2010 8:33am |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248  
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Before I got my Puma I read as much as I could about faults found etc. and decided that as it was the vehicle I wanted I could live with the problems.
Yes - I have had problems but most have been fixed, vehicle is in for service at the moment and a few issues need to be resovled. Over the numerous number of years I have been driving, I find the Puma the most enjoyable all round to drive. Bob |
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21st Jun 2010 8:46am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2637
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As I like to say, very un-PC'ish - Owning a Defender is like having a kid with Downs Syndrome. You know it's retarded, you can't help loving it  |
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21st Jun 2010 8:47am |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586 
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49500 km in 1,5 years.....
So take a Puma, fill it full of diesel and drive hard!!!!!!!!!!!!  Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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21st Jun 2010 4:07pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4646 
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I have a daughter with Down's Syndrome and I do not regard her as being retarded just different and someone who needs a little more care than other children. Having a daughter with Down's syndrome has taught me to take life differently. I also have a Puma and I have read posts about people worrying about vacuum pumps going in the future or a clutch going bang in the future. If that was all I had to worry about I would consider myself lucky.These things-although in an ideal world should not go-can be fixed and I will deal with them if and when they arise. We recently attended the Special Olympics with our daughter where she got gold in the equestrian events which made us very proud. Not because she beat other contestants but because we were told- Just be thankful if she can dress herself - by the paedriatrician at the time she was born. A lot of time love and effort got us and her where we are today . I also take great pride in the Puma and accept your point. I have no doubt that you made the point with no malice or bad feeling intended. I accept the Puma has faults but over the three year warranty and a good service manager you should be able to get them sorted. Our Puma is two years old and we love it to bits. What ever happens in the future, Puma wise, we will get it sorted ,whether in or out of warranty. I just do not get bogged down in what might happen in the future. Sometimes getting through the day can be victory in itself. Enjoy the Puma it is a fine machine but as you say a little different. Maybe that is why we love them so much! I would definately buy another one without waiting for the new model if and when it arrives. I would not deter anyone from buying a Puma. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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21st Jun 2010 4:30pm |
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| Grockle Member Since: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Peak District National Park Posts: 2266 
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what can I say Spud,no one could have put it better,and very well done to your daughter mate
2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up. |
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21st Jun 2010 4:53pm |
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| harveyg77 Member Since: 09 Apr 2010 Location: Derby Posts: 309
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If you want the most modern and upto date Defender produced in the LR factory then a Puma is your best bet. I wouldn't buy a pre-PUMA Defender because I didn't like the interior or high revving nature above 50 mph.
TBH I ignored the reliability issues, bought it a few years after they came out, thus hoping most faults would have been flushed out by then or at least be more widely known/understood to diagnose. I've had 9sh Freelanders I cluding two early 1.8 models - reputed to be the least reliable but they were fine bar the odd niggle exagerated by useless dealers, wheras the Td4s were ok, but a bit sickly and riddled with electrical gremlins. If you want one get it, if you're too worried leave it aline  |
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21st Jun 2010 6:37pm |
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| wyvern Member Since: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2101 
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Spud,
Brilliant - well said.
I'm sure that Naks meant no malaice in his post, but you put it in a much better way from the heart. I love my Puma and I know it's going to be an up and down ride when silly things happen, but that is the nature of the beast. I little bit of me says that the original ethos of landrover was the ability to fix them in the back of beyond with a basic tool box and simple spares ... but I love the power, ride and versitility of the latest waggon that I would miss in a more basic waggon. I've had a 109 S2a, 88 S3, 110 TDI, 110 TD5 and now the 110 TDCI Puma - and each ahs been more refined the the previous one, but all have had their faults and niggles. So all I can say is that 'it's a landrover thing' - live with the faults that make each one unique ! Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126 |
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21st Jun 2010 6:48pm |
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| Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Región Metropolitana Posts: 2109  
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Well,
I'm a Puma owner with several faults in my car - more than any other car that I had - but most of its has been resolved (2 or 3 still pending). I have concerns about the future and allways I asking me what happens if something broken after the guarantee expires. I have already 87,000 km and 6 month left for the guarantee end. probably most of the new ones, have been refined and not too much problems will be foreseen. BTW: First I try to buy a TD5 but really, the differences with the Puma were astonishing (at least for us). better driveability, more confort and the the best: keeping me smiling
My vote to change it! Eduardo MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64' MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo" Click image to enlarge |
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21st Jun 2010 8:03pm |
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| dgardel Member Since: 30 Nov 2008 Location: Veneto (Heart & Head) Posts: 3586
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Thank you Spud, I'm lucky!!!!!!!!! Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition
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21st Jun 2010 8:12pm |
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| bm52 Member Since: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Kent Posts: 2189 
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well........just sold my 90...............now i have to make a choice.
TD5 or Puma. everything says Puma, it is just the cost that makes me quake a bit ! thanks for all the advice. i think i will go for a Puma but i will need to find one and have a long test drive before i finally commit. BM52 |
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21st Jun 2010 8:28pm |
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