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| carltb Member Since: 06 Oct 2023 Location: Sweden Posts: 43   
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I believe the p400e is not available anymore. Its a p300e now if you order a new vehicle. 2025 Defender 90 D250 (wifes)
2024 Defender 110 p400e HSE 2015 Defender 110 Double cab 2004 Defender 90 Td5 |
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30th Jun 2024 8:35am |
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| Muddywheels Member Since: 03 Mar 2016 Location: East Riding of Yorkshire Posts: 79 
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Thank you 👍
I’m looking used and new so good to know 😎 Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW Still hoping for a S2 one day! |
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30th Jun 2024 8:36am |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: Bath Posts: 1254 
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My Defender D250 tows brilliantly. Cracking engine
 Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy. |
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30th Jun 2024 1:55pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3340 
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Does it need to be a hybrid?
As above D250 is a decent engine. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue 23.5MY 90 D250 X-Dynamic SE, Pangea Green - Gone 22MY 110 D250 XS Edition, Hakuba Silver - Gone 21MY 90 D200 S, Tasman Blue - Gone |
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30th Jun 2024 2:37pm |
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| Muddywheels Member Since: 03 Mar 2016 Location: East Riding of Yorkshire Posts: 79
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I’m retired now and had problems with DPF on my last Disco Sport so I’ve steered clear of diesel hence the PHEV preference - today we found out no stock and long waiting list for 110 so it’s now off the list unfortunately as we need a replacement vehicle urgently ☹️ Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day! |
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30th Jun 2024 5:28pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2539 
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No DPF issues with the lngenium 3.0 diesel. Even on continuous short journeys in Winter
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30th Jun 2024 10:25pm |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: Bath Posts: 1254
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Yep, no DPF issues.
Dick Lovett in Melksham have loads of Defenders for sale. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy. |
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30th Jun 2024 10:58pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2740
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Yep I would also throw my two cents in the ring and point out that PHEV isn’t the most natural choice for a tow vehicle.
I had a Defender P400e which towed great but didn’t half chew through fuel when cruising (it’s only a 2.0 petrol after all) once you’ve got through the battery. I actually get better MPG on a run from my P525 V8 than I did with the PHEV and certainly better when towing (which is a breeze!). As others have said, the diesels are great too or if you really are keen on petrol then the P400 3.0 is a decent engine by all accounts. Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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1st Jul 2024 1:07am |
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| Gareth Member Since: 12 Dec 2011 Location: Bramhall Posts: 1073
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The petrol Defender will guzzle fuel if your towing. A friend over the road has a P400e and whilst it’s great for short journeys, and I do mean short because the electric range is very low, it’s a bit juicy on longer runs. The diesel is a superb car. My D300 tows great and can return 25 mpg with the 1500 kg caravan. Solo it can do 35 on decent run. 28 average over 28k miles. No dpf issues, and it’s needed 2 adblu refills.
The diesel seems reliable, no stories of serious issues and it’s now been around for over 3 years, so you could say it’s proven. 2021 Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE D300 MHEV 1966 S2a 109 aka Betsy 1968 S2a 88 aka Bob 2014 Jaaaag F Type 3.0 Supercharged. |
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1st Jul 2024 7:57am |
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| Muddywheels Member Since: 03 Mar 2016 Location: East Riding of Yorkshire Posts: 79
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Appreciate the advice on diesels and in an ideal world I’d buy a diesel PHEV but only MB offer this ☹️
2010-15 I had 2 RRS (3.0 TD/SDV6) which averaged high 20s solo and 17-22 mpg towing 1800kg Twin Axels 
2015-16 I had a 2.0 i4 Disco Sport solo averaged 35 mpg when it wasn’t back in the workshop but I didn’t tow due to issues with Elddis ending love of caravans for a while 🤦♂️ 2016-19 I ran an Outlander PHEV after problems with Disco Sport and averaged 80 mpg but we still weren’t towing 🤔 2019-21 ran a Countryman PHEV at 105 mpg still not towing but we had a Moho then 👍 Last year after hearing about the Mazda CX60 PHEV towing 2.5T and based on my previous fault free PHEV experience I jumped at the chance - I’ve averaged 49 mpg over 7k miles in 12 months (19-24 towing 1900kg) but the vehicle is the least reliable I can remember and the suspension is like something from the 70s - towing is dangerous 
So this is where I am - I’m convinced a PHEV works for me but reliability has to be good 
https://www.fuelly.com/driver/muddywheels Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW Still hoping for a S2 one day! |
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1st Jul 2024 8:34am |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: Bath Posts: 1254
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X5 or XC90?
My XC90 was exceptional. Many D3/4 owners have switched to them. Just look at the Disco 3 forum! Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy. |
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1st Jul 2024 10:36am |
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| Muddywheels Member Since: 03 Mar 2016 Location: East Riding of Yorkshire Posts: 79
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I was looking for a low mileage D4 initially and most of the Disco blokes said don’t do it get an Xc90
I considered it but after hearing Volvo are still making money in Russia went off it 
A few people have mentioned the X5 but expensive and now I’ve visited LR dealers again I’m hankering for a green oval  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW
Still hoping for a S2 one day! |
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1st Jul 2024 11:14am |
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| Gareth Member Since: 12 Dec 2011 Location: Bramhall Posts: 1073
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I’ve had a go in the X 5 phev. Very nice car. 2021 Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE D300 MHEV
1966 S2a 109 aka Betsy 1968 S2a 88 aka Bob 2014 Jaaaag F Type 3.0 Supercharged. |
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1st Jul 2024 12:34pm |
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| oop north Member Since: 23 Mar 2016 Location: Preston-ish Posts: 59
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I had an xc90 phev and really didn’t like it - acted front wheel drive on hard acceleration (petrol front wheels, electric rear). I had a Range Rover sport phev on order for six months but cancelled when price went up (and interest rate) with no idea of delivery date. For towing I would get defender diesel but I have bmw ix50 which I love. When Land Rover finally get round to ev I will buy one (not Range Rover though) but wouldn’t be keen on towing with one
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3rd Jul 2024 11:14pm |
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