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| Clemmo Member Since: 03 Aug 2012 Location: Mile Oak Posts: 1213   
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https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic88530.html Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow....
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| LR Nuts Member Since: 10 Aug 2022 Location: UK Posts: 1002 
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Up-Date
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgy8nm84gyo Lack of officers delays fatal school crash investigation |
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23rd Apr 2024 10:48am |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 969  
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The BBC was once my preferred source of news, but in the last few years I am getting more and more annoyed by all the emotional content blended in every piece of news.
Obviously this is a tragic incident, but frankly the stories interest should be in all the fact (police resources etc), not really the personal suffering everywhere in the article. Why do I really need to be told about all this personal suffering in every BBC story? Should I feel guilt of or maybe empathy for all those people (whom I don't know) that suffer loss? Why? what does the world gain from that. Is it to make me feel blessed for not loosing MY children to a runaway Land Rover? What are the chanced of that happening. Or maybe the story is written for the parents, to give them an opportunity to share in their loss, but why them and not other people that suffered a loss? Your loss needs to be publish worthy? All this emotional content is just wearing down society I think. I stopped reading all of it. |
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23rd Apr 2024 11:21am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2558 
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l think the bottom line is, we want to know how the vehicle ended up driving through a fence and across the school grounds.
It has gone quiet since July last year. Did the driver press the gas pedal by mistake? Did she have a heart attack at the wheel? Why did the Land Rover collision avoidance system not intervene? |
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23rd Apr 2024 12:52pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17202 
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There is something lacking in credibility here:
Despite the above, they cannot say what caused it? |
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23rd Apr 2024 1:13pm |
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| XplusYplusZ Member Since: 16 Aug 2021 Location: UK Posts: 461 |
The police have to deal with the facts. If they can not categorically rule out two options: 1. Driver pressed the accelerator, or 2. The vehicle didn't respond to braking, then they can't categorically confirm the cause.
If you mash the brake and accelerator in a random order through panic, I can imagine the emergency braking intervention can be overridden. I guess that's when a judge/jury need to hear the various different evidences to determine if there's reasonable doubt, or not. |
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23rd Apr 2024 3:20pm |
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| LR Nuts Member Since: 10 Aug 2022 Location: UK Posts: 1002
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Woman not charged over girls' school crash deaths
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4448xx4keo ....... driver had suffered an epileptic seizure ....... |
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26th Jun 2024 4:15pm |
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| camelman Member Since: 27 Feb 2013 Location: Peak District Posts: 3347
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Very sad for everyone involved
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26th Jun 2024 5:08pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2558
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Absolute tragedy.
My friends daughter had a fit/seizure at a wedding we were attending. She'd never had one before, and has never had one since. Tests revealed nothing wrong with her and no explanation for what happened. |
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26th Jun 2024 10:29pm |
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| Nuclear Nick Member Since: 21 Aug 2021 Location: Southwest Posts: 270
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As lightening questioned a while ago, why didn't the emergency braking system kick in and stop it going through the fence? And did this car have Driver Condition Monitoring? Mine does but I don't know how or if it would react if I had a medical episode while driving. And presumably JLR were involved in the investigation but there's silence on that. Understandably the families of those killed and injured are clearly dissatisfied with this outcome and who could blame them? 23.5MY 90 V8 Carpathian
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27th Jun 2024 6:45am |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: Bath Posts: 1258 
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Sometimes things just happen and no one is to blame, as tough as it is for those affected.
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27th Jun 2024 8:38am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2558
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l think the collision avoidance may possibly need a moving target, so it won't stop you from driving into a wall. Having smashed through a wall or fence it's likely the system would be disabled and no longer able to identify people moving around in front of the vehicle.
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27th Jun 2024 12:52pm |
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| Nuclear Nick Member Since: 21 Aug 2021 Location: Southwest Posts: 270
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I think Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB) should stop vehicles so equipped from crashing into a wall or other stationary object, or at least apply emergency braking to massively lessen any impact. 23.5MY 90 V8 Carpathian
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27th Jun 2024 1:04pm |
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