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Shroppy

Member Since: 25 Feb 2016
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 866

1986 Defender 130 V8 Petrol HCPU Aintree Green

Puma buying advice

I'm going to look at a 2015 2.2 with 113k miles on the clock, can anyone tell me if I'm going to regret it? And what to look out for please? 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
Series 2 109"
Series 1 80"

2nd Jun 2024 8:52pm

Ianh

Member Since: 17 Sep 2018
Location: Essex
Posts: 2027

Specific for the 2.2 I would check how frequent the engine oil changes have been undertaken. The more frequent the better due to oil dilution from active DPF regens.

Given approx 12k miles per year I would not expect any DPF issues as I assume most journeys have been a reasonable distance. But worth understanding what distance and speed the majority of journeys have been and if the DPF light has ever came on. Noting on my 2013 2.2 I have never had an amber or red DPF light illuminate.

A 2015 will have DSC so worth checking it’s operation.

As with all Puma’s the intercooler can / will eventually split at the seam, so see if it’s ever been replaced.

The turbo to intercooler hose should be ok as 2.2s had a bracket fitted to stop it rubbing, however the 90 degree elbow between the metal pipe and inlet manifold can hole at the bottom. It’s very hard to see but can be felt from under the vehicle if your hands are not too big.

Alarm ECU (ALM unit) will be ok as it will be the DHxxxxx unit and not suffer the potential ALM CHxxxx brownout issue due to low starter battery voltage.

VCV should be fine as different from the 2.4. I’ve yet to hear of a 2.2VCV issue.

I’ve never regretted purchasing my 2.2, it’s been a good engine. Only parts I’ve had to replace due to a fault is the Intercooler and the EGR.

2nd Jun 2024 11:46pm

Dinnu

Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
Location: Lija
Posts: 3418

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black

As above plus a 2.2 is just like any other Defender. Personally I think rust and corrosion could be the biggest issue on a Defender, although being a 2015 should not be too bad. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black

3rd Jun 2024 6:05am

Marks Landy

Member Since: 09 Feb 2015
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 299

Have a good look at the windscreen frame for corrosion.

3rd Jun 2024 7:44am

Shroppy

Member Since: 25 Feb 2016
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 866

Thanks all, I'm fairly happy with all aspects bar the 2.2 engine and perhaps the MT82.

Re the DSC - what exactly is the function and how could it be tested?

It appears to have been serviced every 12k miles by JLR, is that the normal interval? Seems high?

Anything else to be aware of / look for? I have heard of some failures such as over fuelling, holed pistons etc. but can't recall if that was for the 2.4 or the 2.2. What about timing chains? 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
Series 2 109"
Series 1 80"

3rd Jun 2024 3:04pm

Siwynne

Member Since: 04 Nov 2016
Location: West lancs
Posts: 578

Check if oil pump has been replaced at all. Then factor in cost of replacement on purchase for piece of mind. Some say the later oil pumps were ok but ask any cautious transit guys and they will replace every 50k at the most.

3rd Jun 2024 7:41pm

Vitesse

Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Sussex
Posts: 381

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Hi . If helpful..... I have had my 2015 Puma since new and its covered 95k now. Oil change every 6k and the only engine fault I have had so far is a faulty EGR valve at around 30k. I replaced this but is a long fiddly job. I drive 14k a year and is a daily driver. No issues with DPF lights. I have no oil leaks (yet!) from the engine, gearbox or axles. if you can find a well maintained engine it is likely to help. But good chassis and bodywork is worth the inspection too. 2015 90 XS Santorini Black

5th Jun 2024 3:38pm

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