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pilsburypie



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey
Yearly service 2014 2.2 puma
Had my 2.2 puma (2014) a year now and have done 10k in it taking it to 46k. So fairly low mileage.

Dealer did all the fluids on purchase, so looking on here, it just seems an oil and filter change is in order. Got some compatible Millers XF Longlife C1 oil and will buy a filter. I’m away from home at present and have read it’s a paper type that fits in a housing, but Eurocarparts shows a canister type? Any idea so I can order without looking?

Anything else that should be serviced this year. Only easy road miles.
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
My early 2.2 (2012) is with paper element same as the 2.4s. Not clear to me when they changed to cartridge/canister type. Best is to have a look underneath. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
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jpboost



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
My 2014 2.2 has the canister filter, but I'm not aware of the changeover date.

When I ordered mine I just used the chassis no to check on the spares website I was using (LRparts.net I think I bought from) - as I didn't have my car local to me when I was ordering.

Although, agree with above, easiest is just to have a look underneath.
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pilsburypie



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Will have a look in a few days when I get home.

Any other 12 month service parts/fluids recommend?
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Dinnu



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If dealer did all the fluids, then there is no need for anything else (at least not in my opinion).
Not to doubt the dealer you purchased from, but how sure are you that the dealer replaced all fluids and not topped up? Family member got a Defender where the dealer did all fluids, only to have a melted transfer box about 1500miles later. Transfer box was dry. Too far away to make a proper claim!! 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
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pilsburypie



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Take your point. You can never be 100% unless you did it yourself. Got from J Hallam LR who deal mainly in defenders. Seem a proper outfit and said all oils done.
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steveww



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Buy a break fluid tester and check the fluid. It must be replaced every two years as it absorbs water. Alas you'll need a specialist to do it as it needs a computer to talk to the ABS for bleeding.

May I'm a bit too OCD but I change all the fluids on my Defender every year: 2 gearboxes, 2 axles and one engine.
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The Zee



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Indus Silver
Don't forget to get the Air Conditioning (if your's is fitted with this) regassed, since the coolant gas also contains oil to lubricate the compressor pump : low gas, low lube, low lube, trashed compressor.

Just happened to my neighbour with a £800 bill for repairs Shocked Zaid-M
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blackwolf



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steveww wrote:
Buy a brake fluid tester and check the fluid. It must be replaced every two years as it absorbs water.


Debatable, undoubtedly good practice but less essential than many would have you believe. Fluid in non-extreme use will probably last much longer.

steveww wrote:
Alas you'll need a specialist to do it as it needs a computer to talk to the ABS for bleeding...


You only need this if you've managed to get air in the ABS modulator. If you syringe the old fluid out of the reservoir, fill with clean fluid, then bleed normally keeping the reservoir topped up you should have no problems.
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RichLech



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I replace the fuel and air filters every year too, even though I only do about 2K miles a year.
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spudfan



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Brake and clutch fluid change every two years. Reason being that it absorbs moisture over time. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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kenzle8a



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steveww wrote:
Buy a break fluid tester and check the fluid. It must be replaced every two years as it absorbs water. Alas you'll need a specialist to do it as it needs a computer to talk to the ABS for bleeding.

May I'm a bit too OCD but I change all the fluids on my Defender every year: 2 gearboxes, 2 axles and one engine.


The module holds so little fluid it near as makes no difference (I have the computer) its useful as you can cheat the change and open all four calipers at once and use the ABS pump to pump out the system, if you do a corner at a time you will never 'clean' flush the system.

Theres a good reason to change it as its not so much the reduction in boiling point (if your going to cook them your going to cook them) its the material on the pistons in the calipers, unless you've got stainless pistons the moisture in the fluid eats the pistons.
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jpboost



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I follow the theory about corrosion in the calipers, but I must admit I've never really seen anything practical to support it.

As I'm sure many of us have, I've restored or worked on quite a few neglected cars over the years, including some that have been standing unused (and unmaintained) for a decade or two.

While I've always changed the brake fluid as a matter of course on these types of cars (and change mine in my personal cars every 3 years or so), the reality is that the brakes typically 'feel' fine, and certainly if you rebuild calipers or anything like that , the interior surfaces of caliper and piston are normally free from corrosion.

So I think the hygroscopic quality of brake fluid does reduce it's BP over time, but I don't think it typically gets to the point that internal corrosion is an issue. Of course maybe I've just been lucky? It'd be interesting to know others experience.
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steveww



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You only need this if you've managed to get air in the ABS modulator. If you syringe the old fluid out of the reservoir, fill with clean fluid, then bleed normally keeping the reservoir topped up you should have no problems.


A useful tip, thank you.

I don't have a diagnostic computer for my 2015 Puma. This will save a few quid with DIY rather than my local independent.
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
The same is true for a Disco2 by the way. Popular internet myth says that you can't bleed the brakes without a diagnostic tool, but you can subject to the same provisos. If you were to fill the modulator with air it might be more of a problem, of course.
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