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| tankpeople Member Since: 30 Dec 2023 Location: Fife Posts: 16  
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My 2009 headlamps are corroded and thinking of a replacement - has anyone bought the LED replacements on Ebay, they seem remarkably cheap !.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235023714902?fi...R_aXucK3Yw |
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18th Feb 2024 12:18pm |
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| tankpeople Member Since: 30 Dec 2023 Location: Fife Posts: 16
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Thanks for the detailed reply, I hadnt been aware of that.
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18th Feb 2024 3:18pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2166 
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Wouldnt worry. Had the same headlights for 8 years. Never had an issue Instagram @defender_ventures
Empire Tuning - Agent |
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18th Feb 2024 4:12pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20356
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18th Feb 2024 5:08pm |
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| Welshsurferdude Member Since: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Newport Posts: 2403 
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Ive used Chinese ones for years been fine
passed every mot I do like the noldens though SP4x4 do decent ones 2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) 2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS 2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold) 2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) |
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18th Feb 2024 6:27pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3287 
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As long as they are aligned correctly I can’t imagine they would fail an MOT. I reckon you’d really have to
 off the tester to make them fail you on something like headlight markings. WARNING.
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18th Feb 2024 6:38pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17373 
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There is a reason why road-legal LED headlights cost around £300, and there is a reason why chinesium Ebay specials cost around one tenth of the price of decent units. The lights in your link are not road legal, assuming that the illustrations are real photos of the units concerned, but that doesn't mean that they won't work and won't give a decent light. It does mean that you are taking a bit of a gamble with them. The listing is filled with random words intended to make you think that they are better than they appear to be ("E-marked", well they have an "E" on them so that is true but it means nothing without all the other approval data, "CANBUS LED included", no idea what that means)! Ultimately it is up to you. Would you buy brake components which were 1/10th the price of bona fide ones?
Agree, MoT tester is unlikely to notice, but VOSA will. It could get you a prohibition at a compliance check, but statistically you're unlikely to be picked on (unless you tow overloaded trailers)! |
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18th Feb 2024 6:47pm |
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| Daysleepers Member Since: 15 Dec 2022 Location: Suffolk Posts: 111 
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Agree with all that was said above.
I have some JW Speakers, bought them used from here and they’re the best money I’ve spent on my puma. If you’re local to Essex, Suffolk, cambs, you can have my old headlights. |
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18th Feb 2024 8:45pm |
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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074 
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The best ones sadly aren’t legal on a post 1985 Landy, wipac crystals with the classic car led bulbs in.
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18th Feb 2024 10:58pm |
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| Mo Murphy Member Since: 01 Jun 2008 Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts Posts: 2227 
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The MOT only checks beam alignment. Its not his job to check for legal compliance. No one will ever check them unless as Mr. BlackWolf says you are unlucky enough to get stopped at a VOSA checkpoint.
UNLESS You are involved in an RTC with severe injury or fatality, especially at night. They'll go over the vehicles with a fine tooth comb. If you are found to have non compliant parts that could construed to have potentially contributed to the accident then you could be held at fault. Your insurance company will tell you its been nice knowing you, thanks for your custom and will leave by the nearest exit. Then again it might never happen and no one will ever know or care. You pays your money and takes your choice. Mo (Pre 1986 90 with Wipac crystal headlamps and LED bulbs) The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen. 50 Shades of Pennine Grey |
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19th Feb 2024 7:55am |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3287
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Looking at the advert in the original post it says that the lights are E marked and approved so as long as they work correctly there wouldn’t be any issues even in the very worst case scenario. WARNING.
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19th Feb 2024 8:49am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17373
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It says that the lamps are E marked and approved, but the illustrations show lamps which are just marked with an "E" symbol which means nothing. Unless the lamps have all the other legally-required marking and there is no trace of these in the illustrations the are not legal.
The great majority of buckshee chinesium LED headlamps have an E on them but are not approved and have none of the other requisite markings. It is not an offense to put the letter E in a circle on your light since by itself it means nothing. There are plenty of threads on here which have discussed this in depth and include a full breakdown of the required marking and I suggest searching for some of these and reading them. One of the reasons why legitimate units cost £300 or so is because of the high cost of putting them through the EC approvals process, and you can be absolutely sure that a unit selling for £30 or so has not, it simply would not be possible to sell them that cheap unless you are an altruistic multimillionaire. |
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19th Feb 2024 9:00am |
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| neon1991 Member Since: 26 Mar 2018 Location: Colchester Posts: 75 
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got these on my defender at the moment
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373778628495 no complaints and just flew through the MOT. My last 90 had these and were still going strong 5 years later when I sold it https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164768023135 |
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19th Feb 2024 2:26pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20356
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Blackwolf stated it exactly perfectly - the following code after the ‘E’ mark denotes approval number for various tests I believe, possibly a compliance no also.
Similar to the IP rating for waterproofing and or Ingress protection, such as IP68, IP65 etc with electrical items. Trucklite might be worth looking at, I believe they are compliant. Paddocks probably sell them or some good reputable models, as headlights are safety critical I’d take it into consideration. But the choice is there for whichever you wish really. If you want cheaper, probably Wipac Crystal with Upgrade H4 incandescent bulbs and upgrade harness such as Land Reiziger loom is the way to go, also fully compliant. (Just not with any LED bulbs unfortunately). $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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19th Feb 2024 5:38pm |
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