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| NickMc Member Since: 01 Oct 2014 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 1627   
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Buy one that someone else has already spent the money on. Rust on the body shell is the big one so poke it everywhere to check.
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7th Jan 2024 3:58pm |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 929  
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What about a Discovery 2 auto? There are still good ones to be had without the RRC collector premium.
I appreciate its not quite the same thing but a much better built vehicle with modern classic LR appeal these days... 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW 2002 Discovery 2 td5 GS (gone) 1994 Defender 90 300Tdi CSW (gone) |
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7th Jan 2024 4:14pm |
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| NickMc Member Since: 01 Oct 2014 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 1627
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Hard to get a D2 that’s not got rotten sills and chassis. The manuals are much better, the autos are gutless I find
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7th Jan 2024 5:11pm |
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| paul 123 Member Since: 10 Jul 2022 Location: norwich Posts: 84  
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i have a 1971 2 door 200tdi manual converted to a van . its a good workhorse but if it can rust it will.sills complete body side frames bulkheads and inner wings all like to rot. inner wings are available later cars were welded so harder to change.
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7th Jan 2024 5:20pm |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 929
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The other option of course would be an auto conversion on your Defender.
Sorry that's not helping if you are set on an RRC, I can see the appeal  2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW
2002 Discovery 2 td5 GS (gone) 1994 Defender 90 300Tdi CSW (gone) |
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7th Jan 2024 5:23pm |
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| Jamie1992 Member Since: 26 Jan 2019 Location: Haxey Posts: 18 
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I had a 300tdi version for a short while a couple of years ago (soft dash model). It was a brilliant car regularly did 30mpg+ on longer runs, was nice and quite with a relatively nice auto box ( nowhere near as good as a modern car but very good for a 30 year old Land Rover). Wasn’t sluggish either, only sold it as prices sky rocketed in covid so I was able to make a nice bit out of it, I think prices may have settled down abit now.
Like any Land Rover just watch for rust.  Click image to enlarge |
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7th Jan 2024 5:36pm |
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| DAZ110 Member Since: 06 Dec 2007 Location: East Sussex Posts: 2039 
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Wish I hadn’t sold mine.
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7th Jan 2024 6:09pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5180
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Give Grafty a PM, he owns one Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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7th Jan 2024 6:38pm |
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| Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 751
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Well not everywhere as quite a lot of it is aluminium alloy. |
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7th Jan 2024 10:58pm |
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| defender9 Member Since: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Fylde Coast Posts: 1629 
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Chassis, Bulkhead, side frames, rear goalpost frame, floor, Inner wings, front panel, door frames, bonnet, rear tailgate. All steel, all rust. The only aluminium parts are the outer wings, door skins and roof, floor on some early models.
Unless you want a project I would buy one that’s been properly done. I rebuilt one over 30 years ago, it was rotten as a pear, took me 2 years to completely rebuild everything, when you could still just about buy new side frames. They are lovely but massive money pits if you buy the wrong one. Good luck with your search. |
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8th Jan 2024 10:15am |
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| Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 751
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I think people are painting a somewhat unfair or glass half empty view. The Discovery 1 is largely a Range Rover with just a few different body panels and different interior.
Yes they can rust in some places. But that doesn't mean every single one is rusty or rusty everywhere. And unless you are after a concurs vehicle, many would be perfectly fine without needing to do a full rebuild. The oily bits are generally the same as a Defender with lots of transferable parts. So they really shouldn't be a money pit unless you are paying over the odds labour costs to some self proclaimed specialist who is charging and arm and leg, just because it has an RR badge. Not all parts are available currently, but most bits can be relatively easily sourced or repaired. Like a Discovery 1, the RRC is more refined with a much more comprehensive NVH package. It also directly addresses the interior space complaints of a Series or Defender vehicle. Having the same overall width, but only seating 2 across in the front instead of 3, you get a lot more room. Automatic diesels are rare. Not sure the 200Tdi was offered with an auto. The 300 was, but only for a short production run. Generally these feel very sluggish and slow. Remapped/tweaked they can go ok, but the Tdi is not a powerhouse. The vast majority of RRC's are V8 powered and likely sporting an automatic. The V8 is a much better engine in the RRC than the Tdi, but do expect 12-16mpg economy. The 3.9's go better than the 3.5's, although it is easy to mod a RV8 or even swap in a 4.6 litre. Apart from age related condition, the RRC is generally a very nice vehicle to own and drive. It'll do everything a Defender does, but generally better. It is only in recent years they have started to get popular and expensive. For many years or decades you could pick them up for peanuts. And many people enjoyed running them. As a family we've 6 RRC's over the years. And one of them twice as my brother & I bought back our Mum's one a few years ago. It sadly does need a lot of work now. But has great potential. |
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8th Jan 2024 11:20am |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1419 
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I'm another that's had a RRC and also say they're terrible for rust.
They were designed in the 1960's, built by British Leyland or it's later incarnations and have build quality and rust protection from that period. A good condition, original, cared for vehicle imported from a dry climate or Japan would be my preferred source for another. |
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8th Jan 2024 12:06pm |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: UK Posts: 1388 
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I'd get a good Disco3 or 4. Super comfy, great to drive and fantastically practical.
Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy. |
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8th Jan 2024 12:33pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1077  
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Had a RRC in Houston, great because there is no rust! Would not want to own one in Europe. Had a disco 2 liked the car but suffered badly from chassis rot. Had several Discovery 3/4 great cars in petrol. My last Disco 4 cratered recently on the motorway. Tdv6 engine is a disaster 10k instant write off. never again. More recent RR are becoming affordable, but have engine or gearbox issues and are a little too complicated to self fix at home (engine/gearbox swap). You risk 10k in repairs or scrapping the car.
So I got a P38, very few rust issues. V8 with LPG for Paris LEZ. I am cleaning the air as I drive! Very few issues and known for bomproof reliability (not). Still easy enough to work on, lots of forum support and documented problem/solution, still plenty used parts around. Once you dive in you find you can count all the potential major issues on one hand. Check and sort them out and you have a fine vehicle! |
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8th Jan 2024 4:21pm |
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