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Rip 2x world champion Bow down Marco simoncelli a very exciting and awesome talent. Another top character who risked his life for our entertainment - very sad Crying or Very sad 2005 TD5 90 Hard Top

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Very sad indeed

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Yes, and with Dan Wheldon killed at Las Vegas last weekend as well, I'm glad I'm sat on the sofa...
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A true talent who surely would have won the world Moto GP crown. Who would have thought this would have happened 1 week after a 2nd place at Australia. Sad
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very sad.

It does make we wonder if all that hair he had made it unsafe/difficult for the helmet to make a close fit.

I did see the helmet rolling along the track, terrible.

They don't call them donercycles for nothing.

Pom
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pom wrote:
They don't call them donercycles for nothing.

Pom


Censored comment that, Pom. I appreciate it's an open forum, so you're entitled to post your views etc etc, so you'll also excuse me for posting mine aswell.....I'm fairly certain that most motorcyclists, and especially racers, already know the risks associated with their chosen sport. I know I do. This doesn't make things any easier for any motorcyle racing fans, any Marco Simoncelli fans, or any true racing fans the world over with the events of yesterday.

The guys we watch at this level are on the best circuits in the world, with the best surfaces & medical facilities/staff and also wear the most high tech, modern protective equipment the manufacturers can currently produce, yet accidents do still happen, sadly.

This was such a freak accident with all the people involved in the wrong place at the wrong time......I also feel terribly sad for Colin Edwards and Marco's good friend Valentino Rossi who were directly involved with what happened, through absolutely no fault of their own.

I've been a motorcycle racing fan (and amateur racer myself some time ago) for many years, long before the start of the current 4 stroke series, and have had the absolute pleasure of meeting a good number of professional racers, including some of the current world championship contenders. The common theme between almost all of them was the fact they weren't there for the money (in fact many in the 'lower' levels, 125's, moto2, actually have to pay for their own rides), but for the pleasure of being able to do it 'for a living'. They are not arrogant, 'up themselves' superstars like you often see in other sports, but normal, good people who are happy having a chat with you over a drink as they are breaking lap records around the world.

I remember seeing Marco Simoncelli come onto the scene, become world champion in his class, then reach the absolute top level in what he chose to do. I do wonder how many have searched online for his last moments, having never seen what an exciting talent he was, in what was in danger of becoming another 'corporate drone' type of world championship (ahem, maybe F1?).....

I for one will mourn the passing of Marco Simoncelli. I hope he rests in peace, after giving us such exciting times throughout his too-short career. We'll miss you.

RIP

*edit.....apologies for rambling on fellas, but it's a subject/sport close to my heart. Please excuse me. Mark
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Very sad indeed.

An exceptional talent who went in a pretty horrendous way. Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion.
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MuddyMarky wrote:
pom wrote:
They don't call them donercycles for nothing.

Pom


Censored comment that, Pom. I appreciate it's an open forum, so you're entitled to post your views etc etc, so you'll also excuse me for posting mine aswell.....I'm fairly certain that most motorcyclists, and especially racers, already know the risks associated with their chosen sport. I know I do. This doesn't make things any easier for any motorcyle racing fans, any Marco Simoncelli fans, or any true racing fans the world over with the events of yesterday.

The guys we watch at this level are on the best circuits in the world, with the best surfaces & medical facilities/staff and also wear the most high tech, modern protective equipment the manufacturers can currently produce, yet accidents do still happen, sadly.

This was such a freak accident with all the people involved in the wrong place at the wrong time......I also feel terribly sad for Colin Edwards and Marco's good friend Valentino Rossi who were directly involved with what happened, through absolutely no fault of their own.

I've been a motorcycle racing fan (and amateur racer myself some time ago) for many years, long before the start of the current 4 stroke series, and have had the absolute pleasure of meeting a good number of professional racers, including some of the current world championship contenders. The common theme between almost all of them was the fact they weren't there for the money (in fact many in the 'lower' levels, 125's, moto2, actually have to pay for their own rides), but for the pleasure of being able to do it 'for a living'. They are not arrogant, 'up themselves' superstars like you often see in other sports, but normal, good people who are happy having a chat with you over a drink as they are breaking lap records around the world.

I remember seeing Marco Simoncelli come onto the scene, become world champion in his class, then reach the absolute top level in what he chose to do. I do wonder how many have searched online for his last moments, having never seen what an exciting talent he was, in what was in danger of becoming another 'corporate drone' type of world championship (ahem, maybe F1?).....

I for one will mourn the passing of Marco Simoncelli. I hope he rests in peace, after giving us such exciting times throughout his too-short career. We'll miss you.

RIP

*edit.....apologies for rambling on fellas, but it's a subject/sport close to my heart. Please excuse me.


Agreed, as a biker myself I am shocked and saddened at the comments in the press over the last few days. He would have been world champion one day for sure.

I do hope Colin and Valentino can move on from this.

RIP Marco Sad
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MuddyMarky wrote:
pom wrote:
They don't call them donercycles for nothing.

Pom


Censored comment that, Pom. I appreciate it's an open forum, so you're entitled to post your views etc etc, so you'll also excuse me for posting mine aswell.....I'm fairly certain that most motorcyclists, and especially racers, already know the risks associated with their chosen sport. I know I do. This doesn't make things any easier for any motorcyle racing fans, any Marco Simoncelli fans, or any true racing fans the world over with the events of yesterday.

The guys we watch at this level are on the best circuits in the world, with the best surfaces & medical facilities/staff and also wear the most high tech, modern protective equipment the manufacturers can currently produce, yet accidents do still happen, sadly.

This was such a freak accident with all the people involved in the wrong place at the wrong time......I also feel terribly sad for Colin Edwards and Marco's good friend Valentino Rossi who were directly involved with what happened, through absolutely no fault of their own.

I've been a motorcycle racing fan (and amateur racer myself some time ago) for many years, long before the start of the current 4 stroke series, and have had the absolute pleasure of meeting a good number of professional racers, including some of the current world championship contenders. The common theme between almost all of them was the fact they weren't there for the money (in fact many in the 'lower' levels, 125's, moto2, actually have to pay for their own rides), but for the pleasure of being able to do it 'for a living'. They are not arrogant, 'up themselves' superstars like you often see in other sports, but normal, good people who are happy having a chat with you over a drink as they are breaking lap records around the world.

I remember seeing Marco Simoncelli come onto the scene, become world champion in his class, then reach the absolute top level in what he chose to do. I do wonder how many have searched online for his last moments, having never seen what an exciting talent he was, in what was in danger of becoming another 'corporate drone' type of world championship (ahem, maybe F1?).....

I for one will mourn the passing of Marco Simoncelli. I hope he rests in peace, after giving us such exciting times throughout his too-short career. We'll miss you.

RIP

*edit.....apologies for rambling on fellas, but it's a subject/sport close to my heart. Please excuse me.



Well said that man. Simoncelli was one rider who appeared more than others as a real trier, perhaps its the italian spirit I dont know. Chilli, Haga, and Foggy all had it too. I had high hopes for Simoncelli, perhaps he would never have been a world champ in motogp with the talents of lorenzo and stoner currently, but he certainly was one of my top ten favourites as he offered excitement. I fear the psychological effect on Rossi and possibly more so Colin Edwards, I do hope it doesnt affect their choice of career but I would understand if they felt now was a time to bow out gracefully - lets hope not. 2005 TD5 90 Hard Top

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MuddyMarky wrote:
pom wrote:
They don't call them donercycles for nothing.

Pom


Censored comment that, Pom. I appreciate it's an open forum, so you're entitled to post your views etc etc, so you'll also excuse me for posting mine aswell.....I'm fairly certain that most motorcyclists, and especially racers, already know the risks associated with their chosen sport. I know I do. This doesn't make things any easier for any motorcyle racing fans, any Marco Simoncelli fans, or any true racing fans the world over with the events of yesterday.

The guys we watch at this level are on the best circuits in the world, with the best surfaces & medical facilities/staff and also wear the most high tech, modern protective equipment the manufacturers can currently produce, yet accidents do still happen, sadly.

This was such a freak accident with all the people involved in the wrong place at the wrong time......I also feel terribly sad for Colin Edwards and Marco's good friend Valentino Rossi who were directly involved with what happened, through absolutely no fault of their own.

I've been a motorcycle racing fan (and amateur racer myself some time ago) for many years, long before the start of the current 4 stroke series, and have had the absolute pleasure of meeting a good number of professional racers, including some of the current world championship contenders. The common theme between almost all of them was the fact they weren't there for the money (in fact many in the 'lower' levels, 125's, moto2, actually have to pay for their own rides), but for the pleasure of being able to do it 'for a living'. They are not arrogant, 'up themselves' superstars like you often see in other sports, but normal, good people who are happy having a chat with you over a drink as they are breaking lap records around the world.

I remember seeing Marco Simoncelli come onto the scene, become world champion in his class, then reach the absolute top level in what he chose to do. I do wonder how many have searched online for his last moments, having never seen what an exciting talent he was, in what was in danger of becoming another 'corporate drone' type of world championship (ahem, maybe F1?).....

I for one will mourn the passing of Marco Simoncelli. I hope he rests in peace, after giving us such exciting times throughout his too-short career. We'll miss you.

RIP

*edit.....apologies for rambling on fellas, but it's a subject/sport close to my heart. Please excuse me.






wooow. Hang on their sparky.

I didn't mean to offend!

I have a friend who works in A & E in a large city hospital north of the border and that's what the staff call bikes - donercycles. They see the bad side of things, from what she tells me most of the causes in serious motorcycle RTA's are not the biker, they are just the poor sods who come off worse. Hence their nickname.

Pom
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Sad sad accident. 99 times out of 100 he'd have slid off the track and walked away.
The sport has lost one of things it seems to lack these days, and that's a maverick character.
God only knows how Rossi and Edwards are coping, let alone Marco's family.

RIP Marco.
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Very very sad indeed. He reminded me of David Jeffries, not just the fact that he was a big guy but his attitude in the races and his style on the bike.

A very gloomy day on Sunday but I felt a lot better once I'd been out on the "donercycle" Rolling Eyes and thrashed the tit's off it.

RIP Marco #58
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pom wrote:
MuddyMarky wrote:
pom wrote:
They don't call them donercycles for nothing.

Pom


Censored comment that, Pom. I appreciate it's an open forum, so you're entitled to post your views etc etc, so you'll also excuse me for posting mine aswell.....I'm fairly certain that most motorcyclists, and especially racers, already know the risks associated with their chosen sport. I know I do. This doesn't make things any easier for any motorcyle racing fans, any Marco Simoncelli fans, or any true racing fans the world over with the events of yesterday.

The guys we watch at this level are on the best circuits in the world, with the best surfaces & medical facilities/staff and also wear the most high tech, modern protective equipment the manufacturers can currently produce, yet accidents do still happen, sadly.

This was such a freak accident with all the people involved in the wrong place at the wrong time......I also feel terribly sad for Colin Edwards and Marco's good friend Valentino Rossi who were directly involved with what happened, through absolutely no fault of their own.

I've been a motorcycle racing fan (and amateur racer myself some time ago) for many years, long before the start of the current 4 stroke series, and have had the absolute pleasure of meeting a good number of professional racers, including some of the current world championship contenders. The common theme between almost all of them was the fact they weren't there for the money (in fact many in the 'lower' levels, 125's, moto2, actually have to pay for their own rides), but for the pleasure of being able to do it 'for a living'. They are not arrogant, 'up themselves' superstars like you often see in other sports, but normal, good people who are happy having a chat with you over a drink as they are breaking lap records around the world.

I remember seeing Marco Simoncelli come onto the scene, become world champion in his class, then reach the absolute top level in what he chose to do. I do wonder how many have searched online for his last moments, having never seen what an exciting talent he was, in what was in danger of becoming another 'corporate drone' type of world championship (ahem, maybe F1?).....

I for one will mourn the passing of Marco Simoncelli. I hope he rests in peace, after giving us such exciting times throughout his too-short career. We'll miss you.

RIP

*edit.....apologies for rambling on fellas, but it's a subject/sport close to my heart. Please excuse me.






wooow. Hang on their sparky.

I didn't mean to offend!

I have a friend who works in A & E in a large city hospital north of the border and that's what the staff call bikes - donercycles. They see the bad side of things, from what she tells me most of the causes in serious motorcycle RTA's are not the biker, they are just the poor sods who come off worse. Hence their nickname.

Pom


You didn't offend me fella, just get a little upset sometimes by certain comments on certain subjects, particularly, as it turns out, made on the basis of 'what others say/have said' etc, thats all. My apologies if I appeared a little 'touchy'.

In my job, I've seen first hand the carnage/aftermath of road collisions involving motorcycles and it's never very pretty, you're right. It's also right that it does appear that the majority of the time, it doesn't seem to be the motorcyclist at fault.

The thing is, the incident that this thread relates to wasn't a road going motorcycle, on an unpredictable road surface, etc etc, it was the exact opposite. It happened on an absolutely dependable surface, with no pot holes or unobservant car drivers sharing the same space. He was also on the best tyres you can have for the purpose, along with all the finest protective kit the manufacturers are able to construct, with everything travelling in the same direction. Yet still the accident happened, and sadly he passed away.

Anyway, there's no hard feelings Pom mate. As I originally said, this is a forum and we're all entitled to our opinions, etc, just that it somehow (for some strange, unknown reason actually) feels a little personal what happened last weekend......please don't ask me to explain what the hell I mean there, as I'm not entirely sure myself!

Cheers. Mark
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3216andy wrote:
Sad sad accident. 99 times out of 100 he'd have slid off the track and walked away.
The sport has lost one of things it seems to lack these days, and that's a maverick character.
God only knows how Rossi and Edwards are coping, let alone Marco's family.

RIP Marco.



Someone else to champion then, Maverick Vinales Thumbs Up

Muddymarky - i get the personal thing too, I suppose its coz you follow a certain rider's career so know a bit more about them rather than just their on track antics. One of the reasons I like to read biographies. 2005 TD5 90 Hard Top

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