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jim4244



Member Since: 13 Apr 2014
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England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
Clutch slipping in 4th gear
Hi all

I’ve noticed a slight clutch slip in 4 gear when accelerating. I’m pretty sure that you can’t adjust the clutch, only the clutch pedal using the adjustment bolts in the small black box under the clutch cylinder, but I may be wrong.

Before I replace the clutch is there anything I should look at first? What is the going rate for a clutch replacement?

Jim
Post #1000071 14th Jul 2023 9:58am
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
Yes, only adjustment is to the hydraulic system. When adjusting the master cylinder push rod, ensure that there is some free play between the rod and the piston inside the MC, otherwise the non return valve will not be operative and you may have residual pressure on the thrust bearing.

Is it a 300tdi? A common problem on Td5s is fuel leakage from the pressure regulator and can cause the clutch to slip. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #1000072 14th Jul 2023 10:03am
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landy andy



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What he said about Td5 s. I’ve had it myself.
Post #1000075 14th Jul 2023 10:05am
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Linds Hanson



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Any oil leaks on a TD5 cause clutch slip from valve cover, rear lifting hook fixings or rear crank seal.
Post #1000081 14th Jul 2023 11:00am
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jim4244



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Yes! It is a TD5.

Hmmmm…. The clutch pedal doesn’t seem to be that high to me which is why I was surprised that I felt it slip a few times.

What do I need to look at chaps?

Jim
Post #1000084 14th Jul 2023 11:05am
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geobloke



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Have you had the ECU remapped recently?

The first thing I would do is flush the hydraulics and re-set the pedal height. It may help.

Also, between the slave cylinder the bell housing do you have a spacer? Some TD5s did and some didn't. Mine had one from the factory. If your clutch is not engaging properly then adding the spacer would help.

Also, it is worth checking the length of your clutch push rod. It should be 99mm long. I had to replace Miffs a couple of years ago as it had worn incredibly badly at the clutch fork end.
Post #1000093 14th Jul 2023 11:45am
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jim4244



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Hmmmmm…. Just been out and had a look underneath. Found that the wading plug (I was always told that they should be removed apart from deep wading?) was in the clutch housing. Removed the plug, stuck my little finger in the hole, waved it around and when I pulled it out found that it had an oily residue on it.

So I guess that I need to check the fuel pressure regulator…

Regarding the clutch, if I mix up some degreaser in a pump up garden sprayer and spray it up where the wading plug goes will this degrease the clutch or will it need to be changed? I only bought the Landy a few days ago (2003 Defender 90 TD5 XS) and despite a decent test drive the clutch felt fine.

Jim
Post #1000095 14th Jul 2023 11:51am
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landy andy



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On a Td5 the wading plug stays in all the time, and there is a little square slot behind it that should be kept clear. Shoving a cable tie up it is good for this.
To a degree most bell houses will have a bit of oil in them, but what does it smell like? If diesel then this is coming from the fuel pressure regulator and dripping onto the top of the clutch, reducing its ability to grip. The fuel pressure regulator is on the drivers side of the cylinder back by the intake manifold. Easy enough to swap out.

When mine was effected I shoved loads of brake cleaner up the wading plug, and through crank sensor hole and that fixed it.
Post #1000103 14th Jul 2023 12:52pm
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jim4244



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Degreased and cleaned the whole engine compartment and as much underneath as I could. Found a slight weep on the fuel regulator so changed the gasket.

I then sprayed 4L of heavy duty degreaser up into the wading plug hole on the bell housing using a pump up garden sprayer. Left it for 30 minutes and then hosed it out with water for 15 minutes.

Engine compartment gearbox and bell housing now look like new and, most importantly, no more slippage 👍

Jim
Post #1000330 15th Jul 2023 8:33pm
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