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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4661  
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Here are two articles that do not paint EV's in a positive light. Whether there is an agenda here or not I do not know but there are some salient points.
https://issuesinsights.com/2023/03/28/evs-...9i1pA7ID-Q https://issuesinsights.com/2023/03/02/its-...cSk2DPJTZY 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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29th May 2023 7:03pm |
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| Ads90 Member Since: 16 Jun 2008 Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds Posts: 809  
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/issues-insights/
Right wing, poor fact-check score. But then everything you read has a bias, it's a minefield. |
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30th May 2023 12:44pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2637  
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Interesting article Spudfan.
An article i read a couple of weeks ago was from the US and involved a Rivian pickup that had been hit in the rear quarter. The bill was $45k. The article also showed pictures of the disassembly. When TFL on YouTube had an early Tesla, the accident they had was originally quoted at $2k, but ended up at $10k. Chile that is the home of the driest desert in the world is using 65% of its drinking water for the mining of lithium and the Chinese there are having battles with local cartels due to the money involved. There has also already been a similar article in the UK saying that insurers were writing off EV's because it was cheaper than risking a car going back to the owner and risking a thermal runaway. As well as articles saying that they are struggling to sell them on the 2nd hand market, even when discounted. And as soon as those London ULEZ cameras get switched over to pay by mile (that was how they were specced prior to any consultation) even those smug drivers will be up in arms. On another matter Tesla's seem to be the EV of choice for the local bell ends testing the acceleration in 30 areas around here. |
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30th May 2023 5:09pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17382 
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I don't think there's anything we didn't already know in the articles but none of it will influence the sycophantic acolytes of Saint Elon, arguably the most successful cult leader of recent years.
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30th May 2023 7:02pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2637
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Tesla is only in business because of huge US government subsidies and are now forced to slash new vehicle prices and to cut costs by reducing vehicles to the (minority) right hand drive market.
I can only assume that the US government are getting a kick back on space technology to NASA. There was an article i read from the US that went along the lines of asking the question if Elon welds too much power and leading the US in a direction that is not sustainable, just for his own ego. Having been lucky enough to do three road trips in the US (one in Minnesota in the winter) there is no way i would ever consider an EV. Life is too short, towns are too far apart and when the weather turns its it can be brutal. |
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30th May 2023 8:20pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4661
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Wonder how this will end up?
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/other/volks...&ei=40 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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8th Jun 2023 11:18am |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1051  
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Volkswagen ID bus 'reportedly' exploded. No investigation done, not known if related to electric system. Caught fire days later so all evidence is gone. They can't even get any pictures clearly.
Nobody knows anything and nothing more can be expected. I would not think petrol/diesel cars are inherently more safe than Electric cars. So what is this article trying to tell us? Nowadays you can start to question if these articles are even written by humans. ChatGPT: took 10 seconds (this is absolutely amazingly scary): Write a short news article about an electric vehicle fire ChatGPT: Title: Electric Vehicle Fire Raises Concerns over Safety Date: June 8, 2023 In a shocking incident yesterday, an electric vehicle (EV) caught fire in a suburban neighborhood, highlighting concerns about the safety of electric cars. The incident, which occurred on Main Street, resulted in significant damage to the vehicle and nearby property, but fortunately, no injuries were reported. Eyewitnesses reported seeing smoke billowing out from under the hood of the EV before flames quickly engulfed the vehicle. Local firefighters were alerted to the scene and managed to contain the fire, preventing it from spreading to neighboring properties. However, the incident left the EV completely charred and significantly damaged nearby parked cars. Authorities are currently investigating the cause of the fire, with early indications suggesting that it may have been due to a malfunction in the vehicle's battery system. Electric vehicles rely on high-capacity lithium-ion batteries, which, while generally safe, can pose a fire risk if damaged or improperly handled. Although EV fires are relatively rare compared to traditional internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicle fires, the incident has reignited concerns about the safety of electric vehicles and the measures in place to prevent such incidents from occurring. The EV manufacturer, in a statement issued shortly after the incident, expressed their commitment to safety and stated that they are working closely with investigators to determine the cause of the fire. They emphasized that incidents like these are exceptionally rare and that electric vehicles are subject to rigorous safety testing and regulatory standards. Industry experts have also stressed that EV fires should be viewed in perspective, considering the millions of electric vehicles on the roads worldwide. They point out that traditional gasoline-powered vehicles have their fair share of fire incidents as well. Nevertheless, this incident serves as a reminder of the need for continuous improvement in electric vehicle safety technology. Manufacturers and regulatory bodies must work hand in hand to ensure that EVs undergo comprehensive safety checks and that appropriate safety measures, such as advanced battery management systems and robust fire suppression systems, are in place. As electric vehicles continue to gain popularity due to their environmental benefits and increasing affordability, it is crucial for stakeholders to address safety concerns promptly and transparently. Only by doing so can we build public trust and confidence in electric vehicles, fostering their wider adoption as a sustainable mode of transportation. Authorities are expected to release a detailed report on the incident in the coming weeks, shedding further light on the cause of the fire and any potential preventive measures that can be implemented to enhance electric vehicle safety. |
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8th Jun 2023 2:59pm |
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| the_lincs_landies Member Since: 29 May 2023 Location: Boston, Lincs Posts: 230
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I shan't take offence because I went from 1 Tesla to 2 Landies (a Disco 5 and a Defender) in the space of 12 months... Also, you are helpful  |
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8th Jun 2023 3:34pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17382
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Thank you
I am not saying that EVs are bad and all who think they are great are sycophantic Musk groupies, only that those who fanatically close their minds to the possibility of any alternatives could usefully be more broadminded. There is space for non-electric vehicles in a future cleaner world and to progress humanity has to be more tolerant of those with different views. No-one who participates in this fine forum could be blinkered enough to fit my Musk-junkie classification. |
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8th Jun 2023 4:32pm |
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| the_lincs_landies Member Since: 29 May 2023 Location: Boston, Lincs Posts: 230
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To be fair, my Tesla was an accident. I ordered it after reading my car in for a brand new Disco Sport only for the lead time to become 2 years… they were the only thing at the time without a ridiculous lead time.
I agree that there have to be other alternatives though. We tried LPG before, and in fact Dacia still sell vehicles that will use is. There is electric, there is hydrogen, there are likely numerous other green solutions not yet discovered. I feel that electric will be a bit like LPG was, just on a larger scale. It will lose momentum, those who invested will keep it provisioned, and those that didn’t will wait for the next big thing. That’s just the view of a (self proclaimed) weirdo though. |
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8th Jun 2023 4:58pm |
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