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| jimbo55 Member Since: 15 Jul 2020 Location: Midlands Posts: 399  
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The bracket you have highlighted is part of a 90 td5 heavy duty adjustable tow bar, not a part that is available on its own as far as I know
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1st May 2023 4:43pm |
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| Defriender Member Since: 10 Jul 2022 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 13 
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erm. Well thats not good news. Do you have any suggestions on a potential fix, the NAS step doesnt mention any such issues with various models and provided a number of different bars, but the angle is too short. It seems to be an issue with the galv'd chassis but I could be wrong. https://www.lucari-solutions.co.uk/nas-sty...0-110.html This is what i have. |
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1st May 2023 4:49pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2651 
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The bracket in the photo is indeed part of a Td5/Tdci 90 towbar, and it is attached to the tank cradle mounts which are part of the Td5/Tdci chassis.
If your chassis was made for a 200Tdi then it will not have the tank cradle mounts, and instead will have two smaller mounts on the chassis rails which the towbar should pick up on. These are in a different position and so need different shaped brace arms. The step is sold as fitting all vehicles 1984-2016 so presumably they supply different brace arms to allow you to fit it to different vehicles? Can you put up a picture of the back end of your chassis and what you have been given? |
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1st May 2023 5:04pm |
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| Defriender Member Since: 10 Jul 2022 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 13
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No problem. Thanks.
Heres what I have. I can't angle them up more due to hitting the angle.  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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1st May 2023 5:15pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2651
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Okay so your chassis looks to have the remains of the tank brackets on it but they have been cut off where they protrude below the chassis.
I assume it’s a 90? Sadly you do not have the earlier type (pre-Td5) towbar brackets either, which may be an issue as a 90 always needs brackets for a towbar to fit. On 110s the brace arms bolt straight to the chassis rails. The second type of arm in your photos, which has the crank on the chassis end, is for 110s and pre-Td5 90s. It would bolt either direct to the chassis rail on a 110 or to a small bracket on a 90 - missing on yours. You can buy the Td5/Tdci tank brackets and weld them on, I did this to convert my chassis to take the later rear tank. The non-cranked brace arms with the slotted holes in the chassis end would then bolt up to those. Click image to enlarge |
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1st May 2023 7:16pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2651
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These are the brackets fitted to pre-Td5 90 chassis. Your double-cranked arms would in theory bolt up to these.
Click image to enlarge |
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1st May 2023 7:20pm |
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| Defriender Member Since: 10 Jul 2022 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 13
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I think this answers the questions then, thanks. It is a 90, unsure of exact chassis but suspected td5 or puma. Would these be the right part then? https://extreme4x4.co.uk/products/rear-ant...ets-def-90 |
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1st May 2023 7:46pm |
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| Profyaffle Member Since: 03 Oct 2016 Location: N Yorks Posts: 527
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https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic53504.html
I USED A 110 TD5 Witter kit.. Don't have the step fitted though..  1993 200Tdi Defender 90 |
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1st May 2023 8:17pm |
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| Defriender Member Since: 10 Jul 2022 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 13
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Yeah I'm already in for £500 on the step, hoping I can find a decent non-custom solution. I'm not a fabricator lol.
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1st May 2023 9:13pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2651
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Hopefully yes. Does the end of the cranked arm line up roughly with the inside face of the chassis rail?. |
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2nd May 2023 6:00am |
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| Defriender Member Since: 10 Jul 2022 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 13
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It looks to for me, just needs the drop. I suspect if the 90 degree angle on the step wasn't there it would be able to angle up and fit direct to chassis, but I suspect this strengthening angle isn't just for fancy, so I left the grinder in its toolbox.
I'll order a set of these then, offer them up and see if they fix the problem. For future reference to anyone else having this issue, these are the items I'm buying "Rear Anti Roll Bar & Tow Bar Brackets Defender 90", part no:LR511RH/LH |
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2nd May 2023 6:04am |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1073  
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shame you have to damage the galvanizing at what is a critical spot for rust control. Make sure you use plenty of rust proofing on completion. Plenty of ideas about that on this forum
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2nd May 2023 6:40am |
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| Defriender Member Since: 10 Jul 2022 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 13
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Thanks. I'll do some research.
Father in law hopefully can help with this too as its his profession. |
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2nd May 2023 6:43am |
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| jimbo55 Member Since: 15 Jul 2020 Location: Midlands Posts: 399
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Are you planning to use the nas step as a tow bar or more for looks?
If you are using it for looks/as a step and aren’t planning on towing then before you start welding to your galv chassis, I would probably be considering making some new stays to go to the hole circled and put a crush tube in through the wiring harness hole. Click image to enlarge |
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2nd May 2023 7:49am |
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