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Vmax



Member Since: 29 Apr 2023
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Gibraltar 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Baltic Blue
Not starting
Hi ladies/Gents
New to this forum. I have a landrover defender puma 2.4 tdci 2008 110.

Have a problem that it started went petrol station start it up didn't start and then after a while it started again. Took it back home.
And has happened more than once. Also happened l was on a hill free flow the hill started easy but the battery light was on. Got home stopped it checked to start again . And started and the battery light was off.
Somebody told me it could by the cable that goes from the alternator to the ECU to battery.

Advice or help to sort out this problem would be much appreciated.
Post #990970 1st May 2023 8:17am
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geobloke



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Welcome to the forum Thumbs Up

Start with your batteries health. How old is it, how discharged is it?

Whilst you are there go around and make sure all the vehicle earthing points are in A1 condition. Bad earths can cause some weird problems.

Hopefully that will sort out your problem and it is easy to do at home.
Post #990972 1st May 2023 8:33am
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Vmax



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New battery, new starter motor and new alternator.
It's from 2008
Post #990977 1st May 2023 8:58am
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Vmax



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Double check the earth's .
Thank you.
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geobloke



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Vmax wrote:
New battery, new starter motor and new alternator.
It's from 2008


Ok that was quite the bill Rolling Eyes Did you check the battery was charged before fitting? They do not always come 100% charged. Would be worth sticking it on a battery charger at least over night to make sure. Is your new alternator actually charging? It should be supplying about 14v at idle.
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landy andy



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Does it not start, or not turn over with the key?

What is your alarm/immobiliser light showing during this?
Post #990982 1st May 2023 9:50am
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Vmax



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It doesn't turn it does a clicking sound .when you try to start it.
It flashes on a number of seconds.
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MK



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Did you try to bypass the starter solenoid? I did it several times on a 2.2. Cannot remember now where such solenoid is located on a 2.4 Puma 110" SW

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blackwolf



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The 2.4 solenoid is on the starter motor and is one of the most inaccessible parts of the 2.4 Defender. Changing the starter is an astonishingly unpleasant job, I'm sorry to say, since you really can't even see it.

If the starter relay (under the driver's seat) is activating and there is a live output to the solenoid, it is highly likely that the starter is faulty. If the relay is not activating the range of possibilties is wider, and includes the immobiliser.

You can also try removing the starter relay and applying a 12V supply to the output termoinal to the starter solenoid. If the engine cranks, the starter is OK and the fault is in the energisation circuit or immobiliser. If it doesn't crank, it's time to change the starter.
Post #991016 1st May 2023 3:26pm
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MK



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A lot easier to start bypassing the starter relay.

Something like this. A paper clip does the job for a few seconds.


Click image to enlarge Puma 110" SW

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On the immobiliser front, worth changing fob battery CR2032, just to clear that one off the list. Easy to do, just change battery in fob then shut door, press lock on the fob four times quickly, then unlock once to resync. Ps leave window down just in case of issue.

Note if red alarm light on instrument cluster has been permanently on, even with engine running, it’s telling you fob battery is low.

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Vmax



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It was happening before l changed the starter motor, Alternator and battery.
Then l need to check a few things out to find out this problem.
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Vmax



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MK wrote:
A lot easier to start bypassing the starter relay.

Something like this. A paper clip does the job for a few seconds.


Click image to enlarge


I bypass it as it shows here yes.
Sorry what does show if it doesn't start .
Post #991023 1st May 2023 3:47pm
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Vmax



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Ianh wrote:
On the immobiliser front, worth changing fob battery CR2032, just to clear that one off the list. Easy to do, just change battery in fob then shut door, press lock on the fob four times quickly, then unlock once to resync. Ps leave window down just in case of issue.

Note if red alarm light on instrument cluster has been permanently on, even with engine running, it’s telling you fob battery is low.

Going to change the battery of the fob.
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Vmax wrote:
I bypass it as it shows here yes.
Sorry what does show if it doesn't start .


In theory by doing that you are applying 12V to the solenoid, so the engine should crank (as I suggested in my last point). If it doesn't crank, then firstly check that you have 12V at one of those terminals, if you do then either you have a faulty starter, a break in the wiring between the relay and the starter, or a broken engine/gearbox earth connection.

If you don't have 12V to the starter relay, check fuses and the the main ignition relay.
Post #991027 1st May 2023 4:10pm
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