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spudfan



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A replacement front axle for Pumas?
Perhaps a replacement for the dodgy Puma front axle?
https://www.maer.com.pl/front-axle-for-def...,3678.html 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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DSC-off



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
All axle elements are laser cut and shaped with CNC brake press.




The majority of it is flat laser cut plates, fitted together with tabs and notches. The press brake bending appears to be only on part of the diff housing.
The strength of this axle (Maer) is totally reliant on the welds, lots of them, everywhere.
Personally, I'd be looking for a pre 2010 or post 2013 axle if concerned about the original.
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spudfan



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I bow to your superior knowledge. Bow down 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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blackwolf



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It looks very similar to the HD axle Britpart sells to me.
Post #981973 10th Feb 2023 11:13am
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jimbo55



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Britpart just sell the Maer ones

The do make portal ones as well which were quite tempting
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kenzle8a



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blackwolf wrote:
It looks very similar to the HD axle Britpart sells to me.


I’d guess it’s made by Maer for them, ive always been more skeptical of these big diff pans after watching the Banks Power channels stuff about them
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Indeed, I really want the smallest lightest axle case that provides strength that is adequate with a reasonable margin of safety, not something that looks more like and oilfield truck axle.

If I needed new axle cases I'd be tempted to try to get the reinforced military type and rework them as required. Alternatively I'd use standard cases and get my friend (who happens to a coded welder) to improve them sensibly.
Post #982002 10th Feb 2023 4:05pm
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Chicken Drumstick



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Re: A replacement front axle for Pumas?
spudfan wrote:
Perhaps a replacement for the dodgy Puma front axle?
https://www.maer.com.pl/front-axle-for-def...,3678.html

What do you consider to be dodgy with the standard axle?
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spudfan



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Some of them have bad welds which could lead to the axle failing. Pretty hot topic on here.
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic55655.html
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic33029.html 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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Chicken Drumstick



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ok, seems a bit of a knee-jerk reaction then to replace the entire axle with another if it isn't actually broekn. Plenty don't have the issue, or you could just get yours re-welded if worried.
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blackwolf



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Although I tend to agree with your sentiment, you really don't want to wait until it is broken since by then you may not be alive. Having the swivel housing break off the front axle is hardly a minor fault, whatever JLR may say.

Personally I feel that some form of preventative intervention is appropriate but replacing the axle case with the monstrosity above is not the optimal response. The LR-designed "catch brackets" are probably a more balanced measure, although that is easy for me to say since my Defender is outside the VIN range to which the defect is supposedly related, as are several of the reported failures on the forum. How I would feel if I was in the affected range is harder to speculate.

I do have the brackets fitted to my Defender and would certainly want them on any Defender I drove regularly.
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Dinnu



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Chicken Drumstick wrote:
ok, seems a bit of a knee-jerk reaction then to replace the entire axle with another if it isn't actually broekn. Plenty don't have the issue, or you could just get yours re-welded if worried.


You do not need to replace the entire axle, only the axle case, and re use your existing internals. Probably a lot of Discovery 300tdi going to the metal recylers. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
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