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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372   
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An EV fire in the Channel Tunnel wouldn't be great either.
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8th Feb 2023 7:56pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5165
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there was something in the paper last week or the week before, that the EV market is on verge of swinging the other way and people are going to stay with petrol and diesel cars, due to it been cheaper to run and the power points been a issue,
the Nissan don't make many of the Leaf compared to the Juke and Qashqai. In fact this year is its final full year i believe, then it ends next year in july. So that shows you how strong the EV market is, Hybrid, that's lot more popular, also it was stated that the plan for 2030, was already missed by 20 years. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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8th Feb 2023 9:34pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1051  
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When I relocated to France (from the UAE) we had the chance of buying an electric car for my wife and general around the house use. Problem I found with electric cars:
-They are expensive new and second hand about twice the price here in France -They only really makes sense as small short distance cars: Home charging, limited range etc. We just bought a diesel BMW for the long +600km hauls. -The maintenance argument is just for stupid people. They also have issues with brakes, wipers, interior, lights, etc etc. Changing the oil is hardly an issue. Modern cars are all good and reliable. -But most importantly IF you are looking for a small car there is wide ICE offering you get cheap and with the limited miles driven fuel is hardly an issue either, in fact it works out far more economical to buy a small petrol car. I wanted to buy an electric car make the change etc. Was looking at a used Renault Zoe, problem with those is that you need to rent the battery: Euro 50 a month (or buy at Euro 6k). In the end we bought a 1 year old Peugeot 108 (or is a 109 I am not sure) which uses about Euro 20 in petrol a month and was 1/3 of the price. Does all the ULEZ zones etc, everything simple and cheap. |
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9th Feb 2023 7:49am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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The smallest https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/maersk-line-triple-e-10241 The biggest (this website info is now out of date as the biggest ships can now carry more than 24,000x20ft containers……. 400m long, 56m wide and 73m from keel to masthead. I did a short familiarization voyage on one of these but then got moved to an emergency appointment to a smaller ship where I stayed until retirement. You might be surprised how quickly these monsters can turn and stop but it’s more kilometers than meters! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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9th Feb 2023 9:00am |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4655 
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And on a not unrelated issue..
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/money/news/elect...2138c9e9f9 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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9th Feb 2023 3:17pm |
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| s55shh Member Since: 30 Dec 2019 Location: staffs Posts: 193
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couldn't they just park them on deck and push any burners overboard?
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9th Feb 2023 3:44pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2148 
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Defo 'saving the planet'........
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9th Feb 2023 8:49pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2634  
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New technology and reliable old technology...
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9th Feb 2023 9:24pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372
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Two hi-lift jacks!
You'll have the fun police out to tell you that they are dangerous and should be banned if you post photos like that!. |
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9th Feb 2023 10:45pm |
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| PCM Member Since: 25 Jan 2019 Location: North East Posts: 874
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Not sure how reliable the Old technology is.. I'm sure there have been more casualties form a hi lift than an EV fire.
Also on any vessel they use fire pumps that use sea water. By this fact they have an infinite amount of water.  |
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10th Feb 2023 5:49am |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2634
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The bigger they are …..
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10th Feb 2023 10:32am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Not so…….. you cannot just keep pumping water into the holds of ships, they sink after a while! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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10th Feb 2023 10:33am |
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| Ashbyandy Member Since: 17 Dec 2015 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 223 
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Brilliantly said Tim, 🫤😉
Andy |
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10th Feb 2023 11:00am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372
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Possibly, but give it time. Most Hi-lift injuries are caused by incompetence or stupidity, most EV fires are not.
The sort of vessel which is most likely to have to deal with an EV fire is also the sort of vehicle for which the infamous free surface area problem is likely to be significant. It is surprising how little water on the car deck of a ferry is needed to cause a complete and very rapid loss off the vessel. Think Herald of Free Enterprise. Although there are some practical difficulties, I imagine that the most effective measure for dealing with an EV fire on a ferry would be to jettison the vehicle overboard very promptly. It would be shame that you'd probably also have to jettison a number of other vehicles in order to do this, but they'd be lost when the ship sank anyway. |
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10th Feb 2023 11:11am |
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