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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4636  
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It will be interesting to see how the reliability of the Grenadier compares to the reliability of the current Defender models and the JLR brand in general. It will also be interesting to see how INEOS handle warranty problems and problems in general. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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14th Feb 2023 7:40pm |
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| WPRO18 Member Since: 13 Feb 2023 Location: London Posts: 87  
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I am looking forward to seeing the general public perception of these when they hit the road. I think it has to fall firmly into an enthusiast camp.
Although I've not seen the anticipated prices of them, but wonder if they'll be adopted for any sorts of fashion/ current trend factor. Good on them anyhow for sticking with the project throughout |
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14th Feb 2023 7:54pm |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410 
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I am wondering if they will be taken up by NGOs and Plant Hire firms like the original Defender...
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14th Feb 2023 8:27pm |
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| Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1016 
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Could it be any worse than JLR? Probably not with their Basil Fawlty customer care management Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200 Puma 90 XS - Sold D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold) Freelander 2 HSE - Sold Freelander 1 - Sold Disco 2 - Sold |
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14th Feb 2023 10:11pm |
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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 802  
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2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
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15th Feb 2023 11:46am |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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Well
 that. He had a 1994 Defender that would only do 40mph and 6mpg... Talk about talking utter rubbish...  |
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15th Feb 2023 12:19pm |
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| Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 707
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Unless they are unlucky, I'd have thought it should be good. The vehicle on the whole seems to be massively over engineered. Which should be good for reliability and durability. They have also had a very open and transparent development cycle with lots of media and potential customer involvement. So it looks like they have done their testing and due diligence at the design stage. It is also being built in a modern factory with an experienced workforce. Obviously only time will tell though. |
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15th Feb 2023 12:30pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1015  
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Shame they only do Automatic. I see that's what the market wants but it's not what i would want. With such a manly image an manual option would not be out of place..
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15th Feb 2023 1:15pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17319 
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Well there is someone who likes the sound of his own voice! Shame he has nothing worthwhile to say (or maybe I missed it in the torrent of drivel)! |
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15th Feb 2023 1:31pm |
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| County V8 Member Since: 07 Jun 2021 Location: UK Posts: 147
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Looks like they are getting off to a good start with braided brake lines.
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15th Feb 2023 5:00pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17319
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I'd prefer a transmission brake rather than one on the rear hubs, but I could live with the latter.
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15th Feb 2023 6:06pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4194 
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They probably wouldn't admit it, bit I reckon they essentially had no choice. I think they would have wanted to offer a manual if they reasonably could. That BMW engine was not available with a manual until very recently I don't think. Certainly still isn't in the bigger/heavier sort of application this is. I think BMW have subsequently introduced a manual connected to that engine for the Supra/Z4, but that's probably not heavy duty enough for this application. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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15th Feb 2023 7:20pm |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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Yes that does look a little vulnerable doesn't not... Interesting though... Floating calipers rather than individual pots like the original Defender. So instead of rusting pistons owners will have to keep those slides clean and greased. |
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15th Feb 2023 8:15pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1394 
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The B58 petrol engine was available with a manual in 2016 / 2017 in the M240i coupe before it became auto only, not sure if the manual was in other cars at that time. As with the Supra, it wasn't a heavy duty application. For the majority of the Grenadier's development time an off the shelf manual wasn't available. |
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15th Feb 2023 9:13pm |
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