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big steve



Member Since: 24 Dec 2009
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Montalcino Red
oil which one
what do you guys consider to be a good engine oil to use ?
what grades ?

any info would be appretiated

regards steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
If your engine is mod then use an oil with higher HTHS value (but stick with grade) than that one specified for the std Puma (IMO). eg. Redline 5W-30. Puma 110" SW

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Post #70892 14th May 2011 3:14am
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bpman



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2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Castrol gold edge turbo diesel 5-40 made by bp
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big steve



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Montalcino Red
semi synethetic or fully though
im sure i use fully last time and its like Censored

steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build
Post #70897 14th May 2011 7:07am
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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Do not mind if it is pours like water as long it has a high HTHS value your engine will be protected. 5W-40 is too thick for the oil pump, oil cooling jets design, rings and valve train. Fully synth stands better oxidation. M1 5W-30 ESP has a HTHS of 3.58 mPa.s; Redline, 3.8; Ford spec, 2.9-3.0. Viscosity is not strictly related to oil film strengh. Puma 110" SW

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spudfan



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Because synthetic oil is thinner than mineral oil it has easier pumping characistics and an easier flow rate. As soon as you turn the starter key the synthetic oil should be around you engine in the blink of an eye cutting down on engine wear. So says Tom Sheppard in his book Vehicle Dependent Expedition guide.
He also says that if the vehicle uses 15W-40, do not go below or above the right hand figure but you could go below the left hand figure to 10W-40,5W-40 or even 0W-40. Anyway at my last service the dealer used
Castrol Magnatec A1 5W-40. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #70923 14th May 2011 12:03pm
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Merlin



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What about Tesco's own? £7 per litre.

Merlin
Post #70929 14th May 2011 12:33pm
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Mineral or synth has nothing to do with viscosity Shocked . eg. a 5W-30. The W figure has a min. Kinematic vis of 3.8 cSt (@100ºC), whereas the 30 has a range between 9.3 - 12.5 cSt (@100ºC).

xW-40: 40 ranges between 12.5-16.3 cSt (@100ºC) and so on. Thumbs Up Puma 110" SW

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spudfan



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Bang on, just checked my service sheet. Oil used was 5W-30. Magnatec A1. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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Toplink



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LandRover say 5w/30 meeting Ford spec WSS-M2C-913C.
All oil refiners and blenders should be able to meet this spec.
I use standard oil to this spec,but I change oil and filter ever 6000miles.(1st change was at 1000) a bit old fashioned I know .
I use Morris Lubricants Multivis 5w/30 semi synthetic. Its never over in my land rover.
2007 Defender HTop.
1952 Series One 80"
1977 Muir-Hill 111.
2014 Triumph Tiger800xc
1999 Discovery 2 td5
1982 Ransomes TSR300D.
2002 Yamaha XT600e.
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Post #70955 14th May 2011 6:23pm
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BigMike



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edited due to dimwittery

i use castrol magnatec - every 5000 miles i change it.
Post #70959 14th May 2011 6:43pm
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CRJ



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Denmark 1991 Defender 90 200 Tdi ST Alpine White
I am just about to change oil today - have bought Castrol Edge 5W30. The way I see it there is nothing wrong in using Edge instead of magnatec - apart from Edge being a bit more expensive. Am I wrong on this ?

Regards
CRJ 88 Ser. 3 1980 -sold
Puma 130 - 08- sold
90 200tdi 1991 - sold
88 Ser. 3 1977 200 TDI
110 CC 2003
Post #71741 20th May 2011 7:29am
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BigMike



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Does it meet the spec requirements? If so no problem
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CRJ



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Denmark 1991 Defender 90 200 Tdi ST Alpine White
It has a lot of different spec mentioned - but not the ford WSS-M2C-913C - Castrol says on their product page it is the best oil in their range. The reason I am changing is because i suspect one valve lifter to be knocking. 14 days ago i changed to Havoline 5w30 - with WSS-M2C-913B - just found out that the last letter is different - do not know what it means - if anything.
Am going to clean the lubricationsystem as well - the car has not been driven ( almost not) for two years.

Regards
CRJ 88 Ser. 3 1980 -sold
Puma 130 - 08- sold
90 200tdi 1991 - sold
88 Ser. 3 1977 200 TDI
110 CC 2003
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CRJ



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Denmark 1991 Defender 90 200 Tdi ST Alpine White
After reading a bit I think I will return it and get Magnatec instead. 88 Ser. 3 1980 -sold
Puma 130 - 08- sold
90 200tdi 1991 - sold
88 Ser. 3 1977 200 TDI
110 CC 2003
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