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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638   
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https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/land-rover/d...mile-range
"... The latest version of the popular 4x4 was only introduced in 2020, yet it’s likely that we’ll see fully electric versions of the 90, 110 and 130 arriving as part of a refreshed Defender line-up in 2025, with cars reaching customers in 2026. The move is likely to mean a switch in platform tech, from the current D7 Premium Lightweight Architecture to Land Rover’s advanced new MLA Flex platform. MLA can support fully electric powertrains as well as internal combustion engines, and already underpins the firm’s new Range Rover and Range Rover Sport models, with all-electric versions of those cars due from 2024. The switch in platform will come at a time when the Defender is due a mid-life refresh, but don’t expect huge alterations to the car’s look, despite the change in architecture. As with the Discovery Sport when it switched platforms to Land Rover’s Premium Transverse Architecture in 2019 (as part of a mid-life update) to allow for greater electrification, the look and dimensions of the Defender are expected to remain the same. There may be some changes to the infotainment system inside, with a slightly larger screen, but the cabin design has been so well received by customers that it’s not expected to be altered too much. An increase in the use of sustainable materials is likely, though, as Land Rover looks to boost its credentials in this area. The firm’s engineers are bullish about the prospect of its iconic 4x4 going electric and the benefits this will bring to its off-road performance. Greater control of the electric power delivery through software management is possible, along with advanced torque vectoring. Both will further boost the Defender’s serious off-roading ability, while a completely flat underside will deliver greater ground clearance, too. Technical details of the Defender EV’s sister vehicle, the all-electric Range Rover due in 2024, have yet to be revealed, but Land Rover insiders suggest a battery of around 100kWh will fit easily within the MLA platform, and the aim will be for at least 300 miles of all-electric running. We’re yet to see how Land Rover differentiates the look of its all-electric models from internal combustion-engined cars, but with less cooling needed, we’d expect the intakes on the ICE model to be blanked over for the electric version – as previewed by our exclusive Defender EV image. ..."  --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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26th Dec 2022 8:49am |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: UK Posts: 1376 
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Judging by Land Rovers reputation regarding electronics and my recent experiences, I think I'd stay well away from this one!
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26th Dec 2022 10:50am |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3750 
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I was almost certain this had to happen...
I've speced up so many P400's and in the back of my mind keep thinking 20 / 30 mile range is pretty poor...especially for the price. Will be interesting to see a report on this. |
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26th Dec 2022 11:09am |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2638  
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Hate to be the Xmas Grinch(seasonal eh).
But based on the Rivian SUV and Ford 150 Lightning launches and then sudden price hikes I would expect this to start at almost £100k before options (at 2022 prices, more when it finally arrives) Not exactly something the majority of owners of Defender Classics would ever aspire to and certainly taking the Defender further away from the vehicle of the people. And let’s face it, not withstanding the price tag, with EV spec tyres and that awful aero chin, £100k start price for a people carrier does it no favours and certainly not a vehicle for the enthusiast. As another thought, can car manufacturers really stay in business in the long run producing less but more expensive products for the minority using dwindling and expensive to mine resources. Time will tell I guess. But then I got more exited the other month seeing a 1980’s Ford Capri on the road than any of the credit company owned plastic bores that make up most of the vehicles you see day to day. Humbug I tell ye. |
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26th Dec 2022 11:55am |
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| pjm-84 Member Since: 12 Apr 2021 Location: Hampshire Posts: 661
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Hence I didn't go with the P400E. Plus oddly the Defender is suprisingly heavy on electric. So range may be lowly. |
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26th Dec 2022 12:08pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3396 
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I’ll wait until I see Land Rovers own photos, Auto Express aren’t famous for their accurate photoshops. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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26th Dec 2022 3:50pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2777
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To be honest (and l won't be popular for this) l find electric vehicles boring to drive. I borrowed my friends Tesla and after the novelty of the lightning fast acceleration wore off, it's just a case of sitting there turning the steering wheel.
l realise an automatic vehicle such as my diesel Defender isn't that much different but l do find it a lot more involving to have an actual l/C engine in front of me. l guess my next vehicle will be electric anyway, because that's the way it's going, but l'll stick with my l/C engined vehicle for now. lt will still be interesting to drive an electric Defender though. The other issue with electric vehicles is that they currently aren't that great at towing caravans, again l imagine this will change in time. We've got a Swift Basecamp 2 which weighs around 1200kg fully loaded and few electric vehicles are even rated to tow that much, those that are struggle to better 100 miles when towing that much weight. My Defender laughs at the caravan and still manages 25mpg, making it barely any more expensive than towing with an electric vehicle, unless you've got solar panels with storage at home to charge it. |
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26th Dec 2022 6:48pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638
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no matter what they do, it MUST have the tank turn feature!!!
https://twitter.com/GregKable/status/1594833774856003586 -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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27th Dec 2022 6:11am |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3414  
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Looks funny, looks like a skid loader. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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27th Dec 2022 6:58am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2777
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Completely pointless "James Bond" feature, but good for showing off at the local pub car meet.
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28th Dec 2022 9:10am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638
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not so pointless when you're offroading and need to do tight turns
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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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28th Dec 2022 9:20am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2777
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Would that be a good way to do a tight turn, l suppose if it was controllable and there was nothing in the way it would work.
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28th Dec 2022 11:56am |
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| pjm-84 Member Since: 12 Apr 2021 Location: Hampshire Posts: 661
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What? I much prefer driving electric than an IC especially a rattling diesel and a constant up and down the 7/8speed box. Instant acceleration, single gear (typically), and instant torque. A few people among us spend £££ tuning the I/C to achieve a better result. Instant not lighting acceleration is a joy. I went up to London on Boxing day (family) and got caught up by an accident for 30mins. I was in my VW California and it was horrible, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, stop, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, stop, 1st, 2nd, 1st for 30mins. Stop / start/ off. Stop / start/ ticking over not going anywhere, stop, start again..... arghh. The the car in front is kicking out fumes......... |
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28th Dec 2022 12:04pm |
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| pjm-84 Member Since: 12 Apr 2021 Location: Hampshire Posts: 661
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Thats going to be interesting.... 3mile/kwh. |
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28th Dec 2022 12:07pm |
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