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lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2885

Still okay to buy a diesel vehicle?

ln the long run?

With diesel now at 26p a litre more than petrol, l am considering if it's sensible to buy a diesel vehicle.
The Defender Commercial is a mild hybrid which basically means diesel. l would be hoping to keep the vehicle for ten years at least.

Do people think that diesel prices will come down or carry on going up. At nearly £2 a litre round here and petrol at 1.67 it's something that needs taking into account before committing to a fairly thirsty diesel vehicle.

I've still got the 90 Commercial on order, after passing it back to the dealer it's still down to me to decide if l want it when it arrives next month.

This has come about as l've just been offered £25,000 for my 2005 Defender 110. Which puts the new Defender back into the realms of possibility even with the £4,000 price increase and deletion of the D200 meaning a further £3,000

20th Oct 2022 9:06pm

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3418

Yeah I think it’ll be good for a few years yet, still can’t beat one for range. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue

20th Oct 2022 9:26pm

kenzle8a

Member Since: 12 Feb 2020
Location: None
Posts: 1074

What’s going to be the difference in mpg between then vs the cost of the new one? I’m currently getting 600 miles a tank out of my 110 TD5

20th Oct 2022 9:54pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2885

My 110 TD5 does around 26mpg. On the last fill up l drive carefully and got 28mpg

The best l've ever got was 32mpg driving across Spain at around 55mph

l've no idea how you get 600 miles from a tank with one of these, everything has been checked on mine and it's all fine.

Our 2006 90 TD5 (bought new) did around 28mpg but the 90 is a bit more economical than the 110.
Fuel tank capacity on the TD5 110 is 75 litres, which means to get 600 miles you'd need to be doing close to 40mpg, unless yours has the long range tank which holds 90 litres.

ln that case you're getting around 30mpg which is probably achievable

21st Oct 2022 7:31am

kenzle8a

Member Since: 12 Feb 2020
Location: None
Posts: 1074

It’s probably helped that it very rarely sees over 40mph at the moment, i keep a mileage log every time i fill up to check for running issues. Combined driving where i go is about 50mph max and that usually gives me 550 miles a tank.

If I’m using the motor way i will see about 500 miles to a tank, is vastly improved form the 400 it did when i got it.

I replaced the injector loom, rebuild the FPR and cleaned the whole loom as best i could then did the ECU and plug.

21st Oct 2022 7:55am

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2885

Yes that will do it!

I am still debating whether to take the offer of £25,000 for my 2005 Defender 110 and buy the new one. The current situation with diesel prices is a concern though, if it carries on.

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21st Oct 2022 12:16pm

markb110

Member Since: 22 May 2010
Location: Guildford
Posts: 2649

Diesel.

Once you are used to the fuel range, low down torque, low revs and the fact that the MHEV is amazingly quiet I think that you would get fed up with petrol.

When were we looking to upgrade my wifes D240 Velar we tried the PHEV, and it was impressive. But, after a few days we came to the conclusion that it only really sold on the combined petrol electric acceleration.

The EV only range wasn’t enough to get her to work and back (no charging at work), on petrol only it was gutless because of the addition weight it has to carry, and for the money that would be super annoying paying for something you start to hate. Especially as the difference in price pays for a shed load of diesel.

When on petrol it was only returning 30/33 mph up against the MHEV that does 40/45 mph just by driving normally.

A week after my wife picked up her car the salesman phoned me up and lent me a MHEV 90 for half a day to play with. I loved it, it’s was effortless and a world away from my 90 TD5.

The only other thing to think of is Adblue. That has gone up in price in the last couple of months. Normally 19.99 for 10l. Now it is £25 on Amazon. I normally wait until the car says it needs more that a 10l fill up then I just it and put the whole lot in. If you can add your own screen wash you can top up your own adblue without paying the dealer.

For the Velar it is approx 5k at the point I refill it.

I hope some of that helps.

One other thing. Back in March as prices started to creep up, I filled three Jerry cans with diesel. You can’t do that with petrol….

21st Oct 2022 12:49pm

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3418

Tidy looking Defender though

24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue

21st Oct 2022 8:54pm

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