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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731   
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Rather trivial, but still...
Due to gearbox "issues" (I'm not going to whine any more) and upon advice, I have learned to "granny shift" i.e. clutch in and drop rpm down to idle with every change. If I have to, I will do this until the Defender or I die 
Is this the way one should treat all Defenders anyway? Cheers, Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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29th Sep 2011 4:10pm |
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| dilukabey Member Since: 17 May 2011 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 173 
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Does this sort of gear change need even for the newly modified clutch?
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29th Sep 2011 4:18pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Mine is MY11 so I guess it's got the newer clutch but it still clanks! Changing gear really carefully makes everything much quieter though and stops 3rd gear kicking/snatching. I was hoping others could confirm I am not alone... Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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29th Sep 2011 4:51pm |
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| warren Member Since: 14 Oct 2009 Location: East Lancs. Posts: 903  
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Sometimes mine will go through the gears perfectly, no clunks, other times it will clunk like an absolute bitch. Sometimes changing gear slowly will still make it clunk... Othertimes I can hoof it away from a junction and it'll be perfect.
It's been back many times and various parts have been changed, but still not much difference. Only 8 months of warranty left too...  |
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29th Sep 2011 6:48pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253 
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Just match your revs to the gearchage. no clunk, no granny. job done.
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29th Sep 2011 8:01pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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I seem to do that sometimes but when I fail it isn't pleasant 
Any advice on how many revs for which change? (sorry if that's a stupid question  )
Cheers Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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29th Sep 2011 8:16pm |
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| BigMike Member Since: 13 Jul 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2253
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You can't really think of it like that. Depends on how much load is on the engine at the time. Try driving along the flat in first, accelerate a bit then come off the gas and feel the lever and put some downward pressure on it. You will find that at a creation point it will slip easily into neutral. Kelp the pressure on it and it will click into second easily - don't use the clutch at all. You can do this in every gear, and on the way down if you use the revs to match the box. It's easier going up though.
Once you get the hang of that just drive normally using the clutch though use it at that point where the revs and box are matched, you'll just get a feel for it |
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29th Sep 2011 8:44pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Thanks I guess some practice will be required 
Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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29th Sep 2011 9:21pm |
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| bm52 Member Since: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Kent Posts: 2189 
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that's the way i drive it as well. often don't use the clutch unless moving away from staionary. Just a soft and gentle action and it slips straight in. BM52
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29th Sep 2011 9:27pm |
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| pjw4233 Member Since: 30 Nov 2009 Location: Lake District & Cheshire Posts: 273 
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Don't rush the gear change and try and match the speed and rpm. When speed and rpm match clutch isn't required for gear change. That said I find this easier with the 300tdi, as I think drive by wire and electronics make smooth gear changes in the Puma more difficult.
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29th Sep 2011 11:31pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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I agree with the others, it's possible to feel your way into gearchanges without using the clutch at all but it takes time and a certain amount of sympathy. The nature of the drive-line means there's quite a bit of slack in the system anyway, these are not euroboxes so whacking up and down the box racing changes will only increase wear and make the clunking worse. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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30th Sep 2011 12:31pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Well, I've been crap at it so far  So keep trying... Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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30th Sep 2011 1:12pm |
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| warren Member Since: 14 Oct 2009 Location: East Lancs. Posts: 903
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It's very satisfying when you get it right... I attempted it for the first time in the Defender earlier today, perfect gear change!
I can sort of feel for a gearchange too using the clutch, (in mine you can anyway, not sure if my clutch is pooched though - I get the clank when I lift off...) although it does seem more difficult to change gear with the clutch than without...  |
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30th Sep 2011 3:58pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Okay - seem to have some success speed/gear matching WITH the clutch. Bit more practice/confidence and I might try without... Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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