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| Dibble04 Member Since: 13 Feb 2022 Location: Devon Posts: 28   
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Still not managed to find a new loom. I can't even find lamp holders so I can make my own!
I am going to have to bodge a repair for now but I would be grateful to anyone for ideas on how to replace. Thanks |
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26th May 2022 7:47am |
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| steveww Member Since: 05 Jan 2022 Location: Uppingham Posts: 570 
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If making your own, why not go with LEDs?
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26th May 2022 8:37am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17445 
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Some years ago I tried LED bulbs for this application but found that they were much too directional and I ended up with bright spots on the panel. It may well be that more diffuse LEDs or LED bulbs are now available.
As far as I know this harness is not available as a separate part and can only be bought as part of the control panel assembly JFC500840. The assembly isn't cheap, seems to be around £120 for an aftermarket part through to around £200 for genuine (I must say that I thought the genuine part would be a lot more than this). It's an expensive way to but a harness. |
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26th May 2022 8:53am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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A quick scour of the diagrams on LRWorkshop suggests that this is part of the bulkhead loom, which only has one part no. for the whole lot and costs £2-3k depending on model variant.
https://www.lrworkshop.com/diagrams/land-r...main_44923 Unfortunately, your bodge repair might have to become the permanent solution unless you can find another source of parts. EDIT: Ah, Blackwolf posted whilst I was typing and seems to have a slightly more palatable solution! Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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26th May 2022 9:01am |
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| Dibble04 Member Since: 13 Feb 2022 Location: Devon Posts: 28
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Well I would use LEDs but the real issue here is retention in their location. I guess I could fabricate springs but I was hoping, just for once, it would be an easy fix! |
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26th May 2022 9:21am |
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| Dibble04 Member Since: 13 Feb 2022 Location: Devon Posts: 28
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Ok, well thanks for everyone's input, at least we seem to have a consensus...it is not available on its own.
Not going to part with a lot of money to get this and other stuff I simply don't need so I will find another solution. When it is done, I will post details in case it is of interest to others (or at least provide a good laugh!) Thanks |
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26th May 2022 9:28am |
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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 838  
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There must be a local automotive electrician that can build such a simple loom section for you. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
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26th May 2022 9:56am |
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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 838
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Just a quick search in Devon;
https://chelstonelectrical.co.uk/ http://www.motatec.co.uk/services.php http://www.torquaycarelectrics.co.uk/ 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS. Last edited by BrickBox on 26th May 2022 10:01am. Edited 1 time in total |
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26th May 2022 10:00am |
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| Dibble04 Member Since: 13 Feb 2022 Location: Devon Posts: 28
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I think the issue will be getting hold of suitable lamp holders...just about anyone should be able to knock-up such a simple loom.
There will be lamp holders out there....just got to find them! Thanks |
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26th May 2022 10:01am |
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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 838
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A company like above may have a pot full of them sat on a shelf. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
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26th May 2022 10:03am |
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| Dibble04 Member Since: 13 Feb 2022 Location: Devon Posts: 28
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Thanks, really helpful...I replied to your first message before getting this one. I will, as you say, make contact with them just in case they have a pot full of lamp holders. |
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26th May 2022 10:08am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17445
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It's definitely part of the heater control panel (I know because I bought one some years ago) as also evidenced by this photo of the back of a genuine part, shamelessly pinched from the internet. It is however interesting to note that although the harness is present in the photo the bulb holders are not located in their holes.  Click image to enlarge |
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26th May 2022 10:11am |
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| PaulMc Member Since: 17 Jan 2009 Location: Kent Posts: 502 
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As Blackwolf has said, the illumination loom isn't available separately, it's part of the control panel assembly.
I've been looking for the bulb holders (on and off) for the past couple of years, and have dug-up the following information. The symbol moulded on the bulb holders - Click image to enlarge is the same (or a variation of) the symbol used by Comind Sud / (PCMA (Plastic Components and Modules Automotive) / Ergom Automotive of Naples, who are (were?) part of the Fiat empire.
Click image to enlarge DENSO Thermal Systems S.p.A. Is the current name for the Magneti Marelli / Denso Corporation company that manufactures HVAC controls and components, primarily for the Chrysler / Fiat group. Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge The same bulb holders are used on several Fiat cars, this one is a Grande Punto - Click image to enlarge A similar bulb holder is used on the Vauxhall / Opel Corsa D The only difference looks like it has a slightly longer and thicker rear body to accomodate a clip-in secondary terminal lock, as well as Denso branding - Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge This is the Defender control panel JFC500840 - Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge and this is the control panel fitted to the Fiat Palio / Siena - Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Look familiar 
The downside is that I'm still looking for a source for these bulb holders and terminals 
But, there are several more Chrysler / Fiat avenues to explore - . Paul. 1989 Arles Blue 2.5TD 110 Hardtop 1999 Epsom Green Discovery II 4.0 V8i 'XS' Last edited by PaulMc on 28th May 2022 4:59pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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28th May 2022 3:05pm |
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| Dibble04 Member Since: 13 Feb 2022 Location: Devon Posts: 28
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Blimey Paul you really have had a go! All very useful information both for my problem and possibly for others re the heater controls.
Like you, I am going to continue looking but given that most variants of these lampholders appear to be moulded to the contacts/cable at source, finding loose lampholders for repair/ad hoc use may be unlikely. I think I am leaning towards adapting readily available lampholders by adding a clip to them. I have carried out a repair to my existing unit that I expect to last for a while but I will post any more permanent solution I find...if I do! Thanks for the help and please let me know if you find a source or solution |
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28th May 2022 4:37pm |
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