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British startup to build first UK farm-focused electric 4×4
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"Farmers eager to ditch their diesel runaround for an electric alternative finally have the prospect of something that is sensibly priced and fit for work.

The Munro is being built by All Terrain All Electric (ATAE), a Scottish start-up concentrated on low-volume manufacturing of a proper battery-powered, ag-spec four-wheel drive.

The company was founded by Russ Peterson and Ross Anderson in 2019, and they have wasted no time in beginning production of their debut mk1 vehicle.

But rather than following convention in adapting a standard Land Rover Defender, the Munro is based on the galvanised chassis and body of Foers Engineering’s Ibex 4×4.

Opting to partner with Yorkshire-based Foers will avoid direct competition in an already-saturated Defender-centric market that includes conversions by the likes of Twisted and Electric Classic Cars, both of which charge more than £70,000, excluding the cost of the donor vehicle.

But by using the Ibex shell and combining it with refurbished Land Rover running gear and new electrical components, ATAE hopes to keep the purchase cost pretty close to £50,000.


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Ibex bodyshell for ATAE Munro 4x4© ATAE

This may decrease if interest is strong and parts can be purchased in bulk.

Assembly
Assembly will take place at the company’s factory in Glasgow.

This includes slotting in a 300Nm drive motor and, for the prototype at least, a reconditioned version of Land Rover’s highly regarded LT230 two-speed transfer box with a locking central differential.

Its rigid axles are also used, which should make sourcing spare parts pretty easy.

A 52kWh battery pack is fitted as standard and should be good for a 150-mile range, but buyers have the option of increasing capacity, either at the time of order or further down the line.

The Munro is also expected to offer the same 3.5t towing capacity and 1.5t payload as the Foers original, though this will only be useful for relatively short journeys – lugging power-sapping loads over long distances isn’t suited to battery power.

A DC rapid charger – the sort you’d find at motorway services – will fill the batteries from 20% to 80% in roughly 30mins.

A domestic AC charging unit will do the same top-up in five hours.

There is also plenty of scope to charge the Munro using solar or wind turbine installations, which will slash running costs compared with a diesel pickup.

Flexible interior
Interior fitments are pretty flexible. The five-seat format includes space for a pallet in the rear cargo area and waterproofing of all the components means the whole lot can be hosed clean.

Those expecting to do a few more road miles can specify extras, such as a touchscreen with satnav.

ATAE expects to have its prototype finished by February, at which point it will begin trials and demonstrations.

Order books will open in the summer, with first deliveries slated for early 2022.

Given its modest sales aspirations, the company has no plans to establish a dealer network.

Instead, it will take orders online or over the phone and deal with demos, servicing and repairs directly. This should reduce overheads and keep the price down.

https://www.fwi.co.uk/machinery/4x4s/briti...ectric-4x4

And their website is here:

https://www.munro-ev.com/


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'But by using the Ibex shell and combining it with refurbished Land Rover running gear and new electrical components, ATAE hopes to keep the purchase cost pretty close to £50,000'.


Hope our insurances companies don't see this or expect our premiums to go up next year as thefts continue..... Big Cry

Cant help think that the vehicle of choice for a farmer would be a pickup with a removable Ifor Williams canopy or a UTV run a round.

Plus i thought they were all broke.... Whistle

I'd have one Mr. Green
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Picture looks like a crew cab pick up, at £50k it should do very well - I wonder if thats plus or inc VAT for mere mortals?
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I guess this project is ticking along...

I B E X (@IbexVehicles) Tweeted:
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#EV #ElectricVehicles #electric4x4 #4x4 #4x4ev https://t.co/oTt4yUViq8 https://twitter.com/IbexVehicles/status/1390955753389891586?s=20



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I sincerely wish them well (though concerned what the price will be)... meanwhile Foers Ibex have their own EV coming out (which I assume is actually a Foers/Munro)

https://www.ibexvehicles.com/product/ibex-ev-pre-order/

Just enquired about a price on the Ibex 250 hard top petrol V8, as it oftens runs through my mind. An EV version sounds good. Again, it's about price, when you may be able to get the Jeep Wrangler Magneto electric for £55,000 fully loaded.

 Now left.
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They made a road only version version too..





To be honest, I never understand why so many of these EV and 4x4 startup companies actually think people will buy vehicles that looks home made or just a bit 'off'.

If Ifor Williams made an EV 4x4 with a cab similar to a ford transit and the load area at the back being the same as their trailers, they could dominate the rural market.
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What a terrible looking machine.
£50k for that.
It will be cheaper to keep defender going until there is no available fuel left and invest in premium bonds Very Happy
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I've just been quoted £84,000 for a SWB Ibex V8 auto. God knows what the EV will be. Now left.
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AT1963 wrote:
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It will be cheaper to keep defender going until there is no available fuel left and invest in premium bonds Very Happy


Agreed.

I've done that on a 25 year old Range Rover Classic.

I'm sure it has been cheaper than the colossal cost of depreciation on a succession of new ones.


And it hasn't had to go back to a Main Dealer at all....... Whistle
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What puddle? wrote:
I've just been quoted £84,000 for a SWB Ibex V8 auto. God knows what the EV will be.


A custom built vehicle that undercuts the equivalent production model from Landrover by £20,000.
That almost seems like a bargain. Confused
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25th November on Fifth Gear for the Jimmy de Ville Munro piece.
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When you can buy next year a Ford F-150 lightning retail at £28K in the US, you’d think it would make more sense to buy in trucks from Ford convert to RHD, or even rebody with Ibex and then IVA them here.


The specs of the Ford are considerably better than that proposed by Munro…


563bhp and 775lb ft – the most torque yet offered on an F-150.

It will be offered with two battery capacities, offering official ranges of around 230 and 300 miles on the American EPA test cycle.

Ford claims the F-150 Lightning will be “wickedly quick off the mark”, with a 0-60mph time in the mid 4.0sec range with the optional extended-range battery.

The firm claims a maximum payload of 907kg for vehicles fitted with the standard 18in wheels, along with a towing capacity of up to 4536kg.

Ford will offer the a home charging station as standard with the truck and says it will be capable of 150kW DC fast-charging, allowing a 15-80% charge in 41 minutes.
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What puddle? wrote:
I've just been quoted £84,000 for a SWB Ibex V8 auto. God knows what the EV will be.


£34k cheaper...
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Just convert a Series land rover or Defender to electric, that's what I would do..... Whistle
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