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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248   
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Getting more common by the day
Think I was the first to report the failure last year on my 2009 2.4 110 and there have been a few more since then, one very recently. I rejected my first 110 in 2009 but after a month. LR build quality is not the best but that one set new standards  It was replaced by another 110 by LR and they were like chalk and cheese 
You must give LR a chance to resolve issues, especially with 14K on the clock. If that fails then you will need to engage LR themselves, not an easy task. Good luck Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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25th Jun 2013 7:02pm |
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| Howard Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 42  
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Bob, thanks for the response.
Howard |
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25th Jun 2013 7:14pm |
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| bob neville Member Since: 30 Apr 2009 Location: Marbella Posts: 3248
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Here is my original post last year. http://defender2.net/forum/topic11955.html Bob 2015 Jaguar XE240 R Sport - goes like ....... !! 2013 Defender 90 CSW - sold 2009 Defender 110 Double Cab - sold 2001 TD5 90 CSW - offroad project - sold to a forum member 2011 Porsche Boxster - for the sunny days ! |
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25th Jun 2013 7:38pm |
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| miket Member Since: 05 Oct 2012 Location: Peak District Posts: 143 |
This happened to me last week (see http://defender2.net/forum/topic21166.html ) and is now all sorted. The independent LR garage I went to said they hadn't seen this failure before.
Bloody thing was only 8 weeks out of warranty so I had to pay for it out of my own pocket. I'll be sending a letter to Land Rover though... Mike |
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25th Jun 2013 7:59pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6300  
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yep - I'm a member too.
shaft went at c 22k miles (c2yrs)......and I drove it like a fairy. had one or two other issues (won't bore you with)......might having nothing to do with the shaft but I ended up with a new gear box shortly after the replaced shaft. ?? 2yrs from new and it would appear everything has been ironed out (  what have I just said - somthing is gonna go wrong now isn't it  ) |
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25th Jun 2013 9:45pm |
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| schuee Member Since: 16 Jul 2012 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 378 
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Mine has developed a gradual whine from the Transfer Box since nearly new, dealer has been notified and has suggested to me to keep an eye on it
 Anyway doesn't seem to affect the day to day driving so will see what happens. |
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26th Jun 2013 9:34am |
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| mick Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 2109 
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Yep mine went comon fault the splines are to fine
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27th Jun 2013 8:30pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6300
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the splines are too fine ?
I'm not saying they aren't but given some of the high mileage one that have been ok then I presume they much be adequate (if only just?) there must be something more than a design issue for them to fail in c20k (of very gentle driving) and other to exceed 200k without a problem? |
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28th Jun 2013 5:45am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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It's been suggested before that faiure is due to inadequate lubrication on assembly, which would explain the apparently random failures. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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28th Jun 2013 6:15am |
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| miket Member Since: 05 Oct 2012 Location: Peak District Posts: 143 |
I've still got the parts that failed, and looking at them it's clear that the splines are not evenly worn. The splines on the end look perfect while most look pretty worn away. This makes me wonder if incorrect fitting is part of the problem, leading to a smaller area of the splines bearing an excessive load, leading to increased failure?
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28th Jun 2013 7:36am |
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| AlanH Member Since: 15 Mar 2010 Location: WA Posts: 242 
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The stealer here has just fixed the shocking driveline slop in my 2010 and part of the prob was that shaft apparently. Seems to me to be down to bad assembly as are most of the problems with this vehicle.
Certainly doesn't give me any confidence to continue to go to remote areas in it. AlanH. |
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28th Jun 2013 9:00am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6300
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 same morons that built mine it would seem.
what exactly did they do? (there might be another problem lurking that I've not found yet). my last issue seemed to be the hand brake drum and shoes not fitted properly together with the empty sandwich packaging left in there from lunch on the assembly line )
really pleased to hear you've found another fix. hopefully your confidence will soon be restored. |
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28th Jun 2013 9:16am |
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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2217 
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For months now I have had terrible back lash and drive problems . All the same symptoms as reported . My dealer took the gearbox out and confirmed splines on this shaft very worn along with other worn parts . New transfer box required and this was 2 wks ago . There are NO transfer boxes in stock at the factory and there is a back order for over 18 vehicles parts . Arrrrrrgh ? I had planned an overland trip to Tbilisi Georgia , leaving this Sunday , guess I'm flying then ? My 110 sits at the dealer as I go away for 6wks with no date known when new gearboxes will arrive . What's new then ?
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28th Jun 2013 8:30pm |
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| mick Member Since: 08 Feb 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 2109
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Yep there  one end has strong splines the other small this is to try and get rid of some transmission slop but they are not up to the job on a heavy motor or one that does a lot of towing |
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28th Jun 2013 8:31pm |
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