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Lawless



Member Since: 19 Jan 2018
Location: Herefrod
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Puma 2.4 slow start in morning.
Hi
My puma 2.4 is a bit sluggish to start first thing in the morning. Need to turn it over a few times to start it after giving it the normal amount of heat.
The glow plugs are all ok.
Battery is good.
It’s ok for the rest of the day but the start of the day is not the best.
Fuel problem?
Post #685243 9th Feb 2018 10:35am
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zsd-puma



Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Kent
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Poor earthing could also show these symptoms. Check the earth connection on the gearbox and chassis.
Post #685252 9th Feb 2018 11:10am
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Balvaig



Member Since: 19 Feb 2016
Location: Fife
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Scotland 2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 Landmark LE Corris Grey
Is it on cold mornings or every morning? The cold weather thickens the oils, and even with a good battery its performance is much less after a cold night, so the first start can labour a bit.
Post #685278 9th Feb 2018 1:00pm
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wyvern



Member Since: 13 Dec 2009
Location: Cornwall
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red
We had issues like this before the starter motor gave up the ghost .... slow cranking when cold but fine after. Earths and battery all checked and in good order. ....... Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold
Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126
Post #685286 9th Feb 2018 1:33pm
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Nevillerover



Member Since: 14 Feb 2015
Location: Suffolk
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Sumatra Black
I had similar symptoms and tried all the other easier options like battery and earthing but yup, it was the starter dying and one night it failed to start.
I suggest you change it now, you won't believe how fast a new one spins over coz you are so used to the old one.
Pig of a job tho. Lots of skinned knuckles.
Post #685459 10th Feb 2018 7:39am
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Lawless



Member Since: 19 Jan 2018
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Cheers all. Thanks for the reply’s.
Post #685634 10th Feb 2018 7:39pm
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carrotbay



Member Since: 18 Aug 2013
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 BMW M57 3.0 Diesel XS CSW Auto Santorini Black
Hi .. another vote for the starter.

My 110 2.4 was getting slower and slower to start in the mornings. It eventually let me down before Christmas. The starter stopped working altogether.

I changed the starter for a new Bosch one (don’t bother going cheap) and starting has been pretty much instant since. I changed it myself which wasn’t the easiest and involved a lot of swearing. 2008 Defender 110 XS SW - M57N2 / 6HP28X
Post #685690 10th Feb 2018 11:04pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Another vote for starter, I had similar symptoms, post on here software. New starter, 30 mind to fit, cured. Read a lot of parts saying how difficult it can be to change, but in end it was all scarmongery from my experience, post on here linked to other saying how. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #685707 11th Feb 2018 7:55am
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Lightningtweeds



Member Since: 16 May 2017
Location: Fintry
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Scotland 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey
Starters clog up with clutch dust but just change it and get the old one cleaned and checked over for next time.
Post #685722 11th Feb 2018 9:41am
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Lawless



Member Since: 19 Jan 2018
Location: Herefrod
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What is it with defenders.
I seem to forgive it every time I have to spend some money on it!
I go nuts forking out for repairs on my wife’s car but the defender just gets away with it every time!
Post #685877 11th Feb 2018 8:54pm
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Arsath



Member Since: 20 May 2015
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United Arab Emirates 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Fuji White
Hi, I've been having the same issue and been raking through the whole internet to find out why! My mechanic also couldn't find the issue. Battery was fine, glow plug was fine.. Then I came across this YouTube video that I turn on the high beam before start.. So far it has worked!

Here is the video, tip number 7..
Post #687258 17th Feb 2018 7:44pm
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orzowei



Member Since: 10 Mar 2021
Location: toscana
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Italy 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Bonatti Grey
faro questo tentativo ..provero!!
Post #932103 1st Dec 2021 7:14pm
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shropshiredefender



Member Since: 05 Jun 2017
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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Google translate says -"I'll make this attempt .. try!"
I think it sounds better in Italian Laughing Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.
Post #932109 1st Dec 2021 8:38pm
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orzowei



Member Since: 10 Mar 2021
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Italy 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Bonatti Grey
in effetti... lo dicevo a me stesso!

I was talking to myself!
Post #932227 2nd Dec 2021 6:22pm
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