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| ak615 Member Since: 22 Aug 2018 Location: essex Posts: 177  |
Shark repellent ?
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6th Oct 2021 12:50pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142 
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i just think batman lol
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6th Oct 2021 1:13pm |
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| AMBxx Member Since: 24 Jul 2016 Location: York Posts: 1031 
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Perhaps there'll be an adaptor for the Land Rover Lunchbox?
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6th Oct 2021 1:29pm |
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| Ads90 Member Since: 16 Jun 2008 Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds Posts: 809 
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I think I heard 'eg camping table' or such like mentioned early on, which I suppose makes some sense (whilst stationary of course)!
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6th Oct 2021 1:58pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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It's the one detail on the vehicle that I think is a utilitarian step too far and judging by the renders that people have been showing, very few will spec it. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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6th Oct 2021 2:07pm |
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| Bev Member Since: 03 Apr 2013 Location: Perthshire Posts: 267  
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Not to mention the amount of mud and crud that will end up stuck in there. A nightmare to keep clean… 2002 Td5 | 90 County Station Wagon | Oslo Blue
2006 Td5 | 90 County Station Wagon | Tonga Green (Gone ) 2002 Td5 | 90 County Station Wagon | Zambezi Silver (Gone) |
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6th Oct 2021 2:18pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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It looks like unwin safety rail to me. Same thing they put in wheelchair minibuses to hold down wheelchairs and seats etc. https://www.johnadamssupplies.co.uk/shop/e...nwin-rail/
I suppose theres all kinds of stuff you could attach but cant think of one which applies to the side of a vehicle! |
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6th Oct 2021 2:18pm |
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| ChasingOurTrunks Member Since: 19 Aug 2020 Location: Canada Posts: 89 |
I think it's brilliant -- it's uses are only limited by a person's imagination.
If you look at typical 4x4s, especially those used for long distance travel, they usually follow one of two approaches: 1) The "Grey Man" approach. This is more common amongst people who travel from urban centre to urban centre; they like to blend in with the locals as much as they can. They will have no use for the belt. 2) The "Function over Form" approach. We've all seen these 4x4s -- QuickFists riveted through the hood to mount a shovel, Rivnuts thrown where they will hold to hang a jerry can, etc. Each of these attachment options results in a worse vehicle though -- it creates an ingress point for rust, for one thing, and these mounting options are not engineered, which means in an accident, these "DIY" attachments are a liability in many cases. The Utility Belt is fantastic for people in category 2, and I will be ordering mine with them. I suspect that within a few months, there will be "blank inserts" that will keep the mud and dirt out of the channels. Already I have a running list of what I can use them for: - Jerry Cans - Traction Aids - Shovel - Recovery gear - Garbage storage - Foul Weather Gear storage - Bog Kit The above are just off the top of my head of uses while "in motion". All of the above items have one thing in common - you typically don't want them bouncing around inside, because they will smell or be very dirty. Or, they are the kind of thing you want really handy -- like a Bog Kit -- because you use it a lot during the day. In camp, there's even more uses; there is an optional Camp Table that mounts to the tailgate, but flat surfaces around camp are worth their weight in platinum so adding another camp table would be fantastic. Other uses: - Dog Tie-out - Hammock mount - Cooking/Handwashing station - Bog Kit, Think about how we do this stuff now -- it's always relying on a recovery hook as a tie out (low, usually muddy), or trees for a hammock, or having to haul a bulky table with legs to have flat surfaces -- the utility belt can help address that stuff. And an easy to access bog kit is important no matter what so it's on both lists 
The idea is that if the mount is there, and it's rated to a certain weight, then the only limit is the user's imagination, and a lot of people are pretty imaginative. I will definitely be spec'ing the utility belt. |
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6th Oct 2021 2:32pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3393
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Jerry cans stuck to the doors may make it a bit wide
 ok if out in the open. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue |
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6th Oct 2021 3:19pm |
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| Smyles_ Member Since: 25 Aug 2018 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 517 
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For when you want to add more brown splatters down the side of your grenadier:
 Click image to enlarge Or, for when you really upset someone with who's in possession of an RPG, quickly slap on some cage armour: Click image to enlarge Jokes aside, this would be my preferred use of a rail along side an ice bucket on the rear passenger door: Click image to enlarge I would be interested to know how much torque they can resist... Stuart
Cummins 130 Build Thread 58 130 Double Cab HCPU - Cairns Blue 04 110 Double Cab - Black (gone) 07 Audi RS4 Avant - Silver |
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6th Oct 2021 3:46pm |
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| Intercept Member Since: 27 Feb 2017 Location: Suffolk Posts: 587 
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Provided these are generic Unwin rails, the blanking inserts are already available: https://www.mudstuff.co.uk/collections/vendors?q=unwin Black strip is also available, but seemingly not from Mud: https://www.koller.co.uk/product/rails-amp...metre-/33/ I'm fairly sure that if I didn't spec the utility belt I'd regret it quickly. |
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6th Oct 2021 3:54pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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Some good ideas there but some of that stuff like shovel, traction aids etc; those rails are not really where you would want them tbh as a lot of that stuff is longer than a door etc. Most times that kind of gear would probably want to be mounted where blank window would be on the utility version id think. Also, having used those rails before most things arent locked to it, you just turn a knob to undo it. id be worried about theft and things falling off lol |
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6th Oct 2021 4:07pm |
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| ChasingOurTrunks Member Since: 19 Aug 2020 Location: Canada Posts: 89 |
Yeah a typical NATO-style Jerry Can might be a bit much on the doors, but the utility belt also covers the rear quarter panels, and it looks to me that there would be an easy mounting solution between the roof grab bars and the utility belts. Same goes for boxes for storage of kit -- I'm thinking a place that is similar to where the New Defender mounts the plastic panniers. You could probably stay within the mirror width, more or less, with that mounting location. As for the utility belt on the doors, here in North America, there are these things called "Rotopax" which are smaller, 2.5 gallon fuel containers that are narrow and rectangular (Not sure if they have them elsewhere in the world). They would be perfect as door mounts (you'll often see them slung on a top box or side case of adventure bikes). I would more likely store fuel in a less accident-prone spot, but there's no reason not to carry a water tank in a place like that (either drinking or grey water, depending on one's application). Obviously there are lots of other options like the roof, but that may be occupied by a tent or something similar, so overall I guess what I mean to say is it gives the user options. |
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6th Oct 2021 5:57pm |
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| ChasingOurTrunks Member Since: 19 Aug 2020 Location: Canada Posts: 89 |
These are all excellent ideas! I want to delete my list and use yours instead I'd be the most popular guy in the campground with that side-rail mounted bar!!
Agreed; it depends on how they are mounted but I can see vertical mounting on the doors being an option, albeit an unusual one. Honestly it's not even the best option on the vehicle, but in my experience mounting stuff is a game of "what makes sense given my priorities". I tend to mount based on what is most safe. A shovel mounted vertically on a door using these tracks is safer than a shovel mounted on the hood in the event of an accident, but a shovel on the roof or the rear bar or something is likely a lot more practical and still as safe. However, if my roof is full, and I have no rear bar, my options might be limited to "hood or door", so the only thing that might make sense is a vertical mount on the door. Without the utility belt, my option might only be "hood", and that means my shovel becomes a spear if I hit someone. There's some YouTubers in a 130 travelling the world with a front fender shovel mount (Grizzly'n'Bear Overland), but I note they seem to only have the shovel there when off-road/in camp, and in most traffic it's not attached in that spot, which I'm guessing is for safety reasons. Over the rear quarter window is ideal for most big longer stuff though I agree. I'm hopeful they uprate the hinges on the gull-wing window option so that we can mount a shovel or something similar to them. Theft is definitely an issue, but I'm sure it won't take too long for someone to design locking mounts (they already exist for ambulances and stuff) |
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6th Oct 2021 6:12pm |
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