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| zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 817  
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the Aussie motoring press are hinting at a poverty pack G wagon based upon the military variants..
Some loose suggestion that being announced around the same time as the Ineos press releases that it could be a potential competitor. Be interesting if Merc do something in this space .. However reading the article it seems it is highly speculative at the moment.. must have been a slow news day 
https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/new-milit...sKRyjKqJfI yet another pommie bar steward down under MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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5th Oct 2021 3:58am |
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| BRUNEL1 Member Since: 22 Oct 2020 Location: North Somerset Posts: 54  
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More here https://www.motor1.com/news/537925/militar...announced/
Pricing will be interesting and any sales push behind it and ‘head to head’ tests in the media may help/hinder the Grenadier |
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5th Oct 2021 6:57am |
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| GSDChauffeur Member Since: 10 Jul 2021 Location: Southwest Posts: 14 
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This is what I expected to be presented at IAA in September. I am very happy to finally see this. I hope it will be available for the civilian market as a G Professional!
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5th Oct 2021 11:19am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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A non armoured version of this would be very nice...
"This LAPV 464 demonstrator is a combination of an improved new G464 chassis (reinforced suspension, protected portal axles, etc" "Thanks to its portal axles, the LAPV is higher than a G-Class basic vehicle, and its ground clearance is raised to 415 mm instead of 220 mm. Incidentally, this higher ground clearance increases the fording capability from 660 to 880 mm. Suspensions are based on a two-spring system, which is the same adopted on the previous generation LAPV 6.1. The engine remains the same as the one fitted on the G-Class: the 3-liter Mercedes-Benz OM656 6-cylinder in-line turbodiesel engine that provides 249 hp (183 kW) with a torque of 600 NM."  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_ne...ssion=true |
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5th Oct 2021 11:52am |
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| GSDChauffeur Member Since: 10 Jul 2021 Location: Southwest Posts: 14
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https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_ne...&=1  |
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5th Oct 2021 12:21pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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So if Tony Blair can set up a company to buy a house (and avoid stamp duty) ; then it should be possible to set up a company to buy a vehicle not intended for personal use?
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5th Oct 2021 12:29pm |
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| GSDChauffeur Member Since: 10 Jul 2021 Location: Southwest Posts: 14
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I can see why in terms of robustness and reliability one might see equipment such as airbags as a disadvantage. On the other hand I can also see institutional buyers not choosing the W464 because of this. I wouldn’t leave out an airbag in police or firefighter vehicles. The crash probability on emergency drives on public roads is significantly higher than average. In Germany there are also very limited security and environmental exceptions for purchasing military vehicles.
Edit: and there are usually no exceptions for civilian emergency vehicles. |
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5th Oct 2021 1:19pm |
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| Hweebe Member Since: 03 Oct 2021 Location: Brisbane Posts: 11
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Pipe dream at best, I just don’t see it happening when Merc can make way more money and profit in USA, China and Russia. Unless production lines are different for this model.
Excerpt form news outlet in Australia. “ The new-generation G-Class, which launched in 2018, has also proven hugely popular overseas, with 7723 new registrations in the US last year – making 2020 its most popular year to date. The G-Class is also understood to be extremely popular in China and Russia, though sales figures for those two countries are harder to come by. Mercedes-Benz Australia has been forced to stop taking new orders of its G-Class luxury SUV to clear the backlog of sales as production slows due to pandemic-related issues and a shortage of semi-conductors.“ So as far as I can tell, they can’t make enough of the more profitable luxury versions to meet the demand |
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5th Oct 2021 3:12pm |
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| GSDChauffeur Member Since: 10 Jul 2021 Location: Southwest Posts: 14
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…unless they produce the military version at a different plant.
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5th Oct 2021 3:25pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Under normal circumstances that would tell a story but under current circumstances it just points to supply issues. |
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5th Oct 2021 3:35pm |
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| Black Puma Member Since: 31 Jan 2015 Location: Sydney Posts: 188 
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No sane person would ever drive a vehicle that lacks airbags
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5th Oct 2021 10:44pm |
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| GSDChauffeur Member Since: 10 Jul 2021 Location: Southwest Posts: 14
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Well, considering the shortage of personnel in western industrialised countries and the time and cost for training of any kind of Police/Firefighter/EMT or military personnel (yet alone for specialised personnel such as civilian mountain rescue or military special forces) … as a superior, I wouldn’t risk it.
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6th Oct 2021 10:03am |
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